German National Team News & Discussion Thread - EURO 2012 & Beyond [R] II

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  1. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Interesting. I think Gündogan already surpassed him.
     
  2. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    To be honest, I don't expect another full great season from him. His reputation is based on experience and only two good seasons and a good summer, yet he is supposed to be a midfield general. I would be surprised if he has another full season in him and when he doesn't, his experience shouldn't save him.
     
  3. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I don't think Gündoğan will ever come back the same, unfortunately. :(
     
  4. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Is he due back at all?
     
  5. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Would be terrible. Most talented midfielder Germany has produced since Ballack.
     
  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    So who would you play in midfield?
     
  7. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    if all fit, Kroos and Gündogan ahead of Lahm.
     
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  8. RacMan93

    RacMan93 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Montreal
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    if everyone is fit

    neuer-lahm-hummels-boateng-jansen-khedira-gundogan-ozil-muller-reus-lasogga.
     
  9. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Sadly I think this is very likely.
     
  10. P to the Wee

    P to the Wee Red Card

    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm still hoping for the best. He's really ********ing good.
     
  11. Kirsten19

    Kirsten19 Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Newport Beach, CA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Still think Lasogga is needed in the lineup. Acts as a catalyst/complement to our offense

    Too "soft", not clinical enough, always caught with bad positioning inside the box, zero physicality and killer instinct, no back-to-goal, no aerial threat, limited finishing skill-set

    Lasogga can certainly be the missing puzzle. The way how he can score in diversed ways interested me, how much he brings physicality, winning-mentality and passion to the game is another plus. And apparently his holding ability up top n ability to play back-to-goal is seriously missed
     
  12. Kirsten19

    Kirsten19 Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Newport Beach, CA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I mean I understand why Loew insists they want a striker up top.

    Too many missed attributes even on modern games. And with Mueller/Oezil/Goetze/Kroos/Schweini/Lahm u don't see any catalyst/X-factor/complement(whatever you call it)

    not clinical enough, always caught with bad positioning inside the box, zero physicality and killer instinct, no back-to-goal, no aerial threat, limited finishing skill-set
     
  13. Goetzil10

    Goetzil10 Member

    Real Madrid
    Germany
    Jul 1, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This is a great analysis of the state of German football. The problem really is that the team has been stuck in too long a period of stagnation (2011-2013) under Low where the players relied on a style of quick transitions and counter attacks that brought great success against low quality teams, but was unable to control games against bigger sides or create enough real scoring opportunities. Unfortunately, IMO there isn't enough time before the WC for Low to completely change the style and mentality of the players (it would be a miracle), and we just have to hope for the best with this unstructured retention game he is now trying to implement.
     
  14. Goetzil10

    Goetzil10 Member

    Real Madrid
    Germany
    Jul 1, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Great point. Although the fact we regularly under perform in friendlies must have something to do with the lack of motivation and drive for players.
     
  15. biohazard

    biohazard Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Estonia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    fk u haters, Özil scores against Everton.
     
  16. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    He's been in good form for a couple of weeks now - it just doesn't fit the meme
     
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  17. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Everton small team. FA Cup meaningless.
     
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  18. Ozilll

    Ozilll Member

    Mar 12, 2011
    Anybody here watching Rooney closely? This guy doesn't reflect his salary and the hype since years now, and yet he's adored. Maybe this will help me understand the ozil saga in EPL.
     
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  19. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    what a one-sided affair.
     
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  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Me too but assuming Gundo is not fit?
     
  21. F96

    F96 Member+

    Oct 24, 2002
    Skåne
    Club:
    Hannover 96
    By whom?? Certainly not int he ManU board I read frequently.
     
  22. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Next best would be what we saw Wednesday with Schweinsteiger and Kroos ahead of Lahm and hope the former is fit and in form, otherwise he's a waste and I would put L. Bender ahead of him even.
     
  23. heynckes' hanging leftnut

    Feb 27, 2013
    1. Jögi Löw's jumper and scarf matched the uniform. A+
    2. Unfortunately, they played like 1999's Flamengo without Romario at no.9
    3. How do you think Romario would have done at the "false 9"?
     
  24. Neutral2

    Neutral2 Member

    Apr 30, 2006
    Germany
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I was bored and decided to make a statistic of german offenisve players.
    Minutes played/scorers at the current season (Stats taken from transfermarkt.de)

    Thomas Müller(2734Minutes/35 scorers) 78,11 Minutes
    Lukas Podolski(668Minutes/ 8 scorers) 83,5 Minutes
    Sidney Sam(1852Minutes/ 21 scorers) 88,19 Minutes
    Marco Reus(2565Minutes/29 scorers) 88,44 Minutes
    Mario Götze(2052Minutes/20 scorers) 102,6 Minutes
    Andre Hahn(2305Minutes/ 19scorers) 121,31 Minutes
    Stefan Kießling(2818Minutes/ 20scorers) 140,9 Minutes
    Julian Draxler(2253Minutes/ 15scorers) 150,2 Minutes
    Max Kruse(2310Minutes/ 15 scorers) 154 Minutes
    Mesut Özil(3104Minutes/20 scorers) 155,2 Minutes
    Mario Gomez(662Minutes/ 4 scorers)165,5 Minutes
    Miroslav Klose(1862Minutes/11 scorers) 169,27 Minutes
    Andre Schürrle(1449Minutes/ 7 scorers) 207 Minutes

    To put these into perspective e.g. Hazard(3305Minutes/ 24scorers) 137,7 Minutes
     
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  25. Ozilll

    Ozilll Member

    Mar 12, 2011
    British media
     

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