German National Team News & Discussion Thread - EURO 2012 & Beyond [R] II

Schmelzer is terrible

 

Is it just me or the Bayern midfield trio is getting outplayed ?

 

They've been shit today.

 

Not you, Chile is dominating the game in every aspect..

 

Chile too hot to handle

 

Kroos has been really bad today IMO.

 

FT: 1-0.

 

No other word than garbage comes to mind.

 

Not impressed, not even a little. Only positive thing probably is the result. Under par performance...

 

Only positive is Grosskreutz.

 

I thought Boateng, Neuer, Özil, and Götze played well too. Everything else was trash.

 

South Americans being more skilful/technically gifted than the Germans is no surprise. Different cultures, different ways of playing.

 

Yea they did but that's expected.

Bayern midfield couldn't be bothered.

Other positive is that Löw stuck by experimental shape, just wish some of the contingent would treat this more seriously instead of waiting for official matches. Then guys who performed well like Özil get booed off because rest of team is shit. Meanwhile Bayern darlings just stroll by.

 

German NT fans, there are too many event hoppers, not football fans. At the WC it hopefully gets better when some of these hipsters stay at home and people travel to Brazil to support the team.

 

Was about to ask that to a German . He started again today, find it weird. As a German NT supporter I was already deceived he played in last tournament..

 

Found that weird especially that he created 2 clear cut chances, 1 assist and ran his a out. That was harsh especially at a moment ( british bashing him) he needs support from home fans. He was also whistled for a missed pass. What did kroos do today ?

 

I do not know why Kroos played the full game he was the worst player on the field today. Substituting him with Sam and moving Özil to the center would have done wonders imho.

I didn`t think that Khedira would be this irreplacable but we really need his work rate. Lahm lacks his physical play and we need him as an full back. Schweini isn´t completely there yet.

There seemed to be a huge gap between midfield and the backline. The attempts at pressing seemed uncoordinated and our team was easily overpowered in the midfield. At times it felt like the team could not decide if they wanted to play a high line or not.

When was the last time we scored from a corner kick? All attempts today were pitiful.

I wish we had lost that game. I have the feeling that some players think that they can fake it in and still achieve results, those players really could have used a wake up call.

 

Khedira above all is a team leader. Tactically we can move on from him as he is not ideal for a single holding formation but yea, what missed today was leadership as neither Schweinsteiger or Lahm are natural leaders to be honest.

 

I feel he lacks a bit of composure in the final third. Needs to pick his head up more instead of driving to the by line each time. Defensively sound though.

 

Well he was responsible for creating one of our best chances which isn't saying much and while he isn't the most gifted and "clever" players his intelligence is understated. Moreover he gives an unpredictability and his character is such that it stands out from the rest. It's actually more likely than people care to admit that an "underdog" can rise and meet a great challenge and he is the perfect fit and every condition is in his favor to do so. It would be silly not to pick him as RB going forward.

 

What makes for a natural leader, to be honest?

This team was absolute shit today. Really disheartening to see considering the fight for those World Cup spots are now entering the most competitive phase. Toni Kroos, for all his talk of how great and necessary he thinks he is, was just a waste of space in this match. I think he's immensely talented, but really what's the point if he's never going to contribute big when he needs to?

 

Someone who leads by example, is vocal, "tenacious". A bit of the old school fighter. That shows and resonates with the rest. That's Khedira. He's really the only one who comes closest.

Yea all three Bayern player in midfield were awful but the reason really is they didn't care for this friendly, almost like they needed to save up energy for club and also because this system is still fairly new to them. Dynamic is different too. Pep commands respect so when Kroos and Schweini give ball away or leave positions, they would know. Löw just doesn't. He just made funny faces and threw his hands around.

I hate to sound like a broken record but this team has what it takes but needs a manager to get them there. If the players don't try hard enough, it's really up to the manager to do something about it. If Löw already does then all his team talk, etc is a waste because it's clearly not having an effect. I don't think he isn't trying, he just doesn't do it the right way it seems and thus we see a great disconnect between management and players.

 

Too much panic, i think it's just an off-game

Grosskreutz was ok...just ok. Lahm moves back to RB, and we can have Schweini n Khedira back at the double -pivot. We need Khedira's leadership, aggressiveness n high work-rate in the midfield

Lahm as a single holding midfielder gets bullied often becoz of his lack of size/toughness/physicality at next level. If we don't hv the right ingredients(players) we move on to something that suit us better. Other than Lahm(who also isn't perfect as a DM), I don't see how we can play a single holding midfielder. If we wanna see Khedira in the starting lineup, Double-Pivot may be more sensible

 

Is he better than Lars though? Lars has better technique, but doesn't play there at club level.

 

A healthy Klose is needed in this team. Still needed. We need him as a complement to our skilled but not very clincial AMs(Goetze missed easy chances). Now he is just unfit or it's was just an off-game

He is the best allround finisher I n this team while being the most intelligent n has great build-up game. He is mobile n always at the best position, that's what we need and his game (when fit) certainly fits the NT the most as he doesnt hurt the teams fluiditiy. His back-to-goal, diversed finishing skill-set, experience, positioning ability and lethality is lacked.

So we needa find a complement. Lasogga is more ideal given Klose's age but Don't see any problem in Klose's style n game.

Having a striker in the system in not only a plan B (if false 9 fail) but also works as a complement. Interchange is important but 5 similar type with similar strengths and weaknesses may not have the synergy. What will be ideal is to have one player in that interchange who can provide something different and what the team lacked, complements the others game and weaknessss. That's the role of Klose or Lasogga so far