Alert: MLS Buys Chivas USA

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by profiled, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    And the Yankees are in a different situation how?
     
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  2. esc0

    esc0 Member

    May 29, 2012
    Idaho
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the most important question everyone is forgetting to ask is. What happens to Bofo now?
     
  3. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cut the LA metro are population in half. What number do you get.

    Add up the entire San Diego area population. What number do you get.

    There's your answer.
     
  4. The 92nd Fish

    The 92nd Fish Member

    Jan 16, 2007
    London, England
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Thank the good lord!
     
  5. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    #180 30King, Feb 20, 2014
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2014
    I've been beating the drum for quite a while that it is dangerous to go head-to-head against MLB, esp in smaller markets. LA (and NYC) are probably the exceptions, though, due to the sheer number of people in the respective areas. Regarding game overlap, scheduling logistics is not that big of a deal
     
  6. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many people walk up to Yankee's stadium? How many walk to Dodger's stadium? There's been discussion of developing the area around Dodger's for other stadia for a while, but I just don't see it happening.

    Regarding the head-to-head nature of the relationship, I couldn't say. Both teams have good attendance, etc.
     
  7. cwilke1

    cwilke1 Member

    Sep 1, 2006
    Glen Cove
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vergara had much more pressure on him because his team was paying rent and was losing money. Estimates just in this thread pegged the losses at $5 million to $10 million a year.

    On the other hand, Kraft makes money on the Revolution. Of course, he makes very little but its still better than losing money every year.
     
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  8. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you and I are on the same page. I was thinking more of the realities of Chavez Ravine on a game day. Lots of people think LA fans are just late - no, there's actually an hour-long line to get into the parking lot.
     
  9. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    What I really want to know?

    When did the buy out idea gain traction with the majority of owners? What were the initial votes and thoughts? Is this MLS fund money the owners agreed to give up? Was it unanimous?

    I guess even the most frugal/cheap MLS owners...Krafts/Hauptman....figure a larger expansion fee from a new team owner will cover it, but I'm still real curious. Will it be a full expansion fee anyway? Hmmm.

    Great day.

    Can we all focus on mocking the Kraft's now?
     
  10. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Yeah if a stadium was built next to Dodger Stadium, scheduling wouldn't be a big issue. MLB schedule comes out pretty well in advance and MLS could schedule around it like they do with the Sounders/Mariners. Houston people, do the Astros and Dynamo ever play at the same time?

    And if a stadium is built in DS parking lot, Guggenheim will be involved. I can't see them not using that huge piece of property they own for themselves. Parking structures are inevitable in Chavez Ravine.

    Piggyback Yard east of Union Station would be an obviously great location, but no idea who owns that property.
     
  11. IndyMac

    IndyMac Member

    Nov 2, 2008
    Evansville, Indiana
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't Columbus sold for $60 million? Chivas USA may only be worth $64 million, but a Major League Soccer club in LA is worth much, much more.
     
  12. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    It reminds me of one of those awkward retirement ceremonies were people are trying to think up praise for the retiree. Once they're out the door the real story will be told.
     
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  13. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Crew Stadium is probably 20 to 30 million of that.
     
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  14. soundermiki

    soundermiki Member+

    May 24, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seattle too, but that's due in part to the Chivas-level amount of mismanagement of the Mariners' front office (in addition to losing for the better part of 13 years, they've managed to alienate their season ticket base as well as casual sports fans to boot by coming out against the Sonics coming back to town).
     
  15. IndyMac

    IndyMac Member

    Nov 2, 2008
    Evansville, Indiana
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The one scary thing from that conference call is the Don's admission that the league continues to court foreign clubs as owners. Despite all the evidence demonstrating that local, committed ownership is the most successful for the league.
     
  16. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    A couple year ago at MLS Cup I was actually in my car headed to Dodger's Stadium to shoot Tommy with the Philip F. Anschutz Trophy. I think Tommy wasn't feeling well and they called it off.

    Of course the courts have gotten involved with the Dodgers - and who owns them. They've got their own problems.
     
  17. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I think the Vergaras really are held in good esteem in MLS. I really do think it's the Cues who aren't welcome. Vergara has been a huge advocate for MLS (and SUM) within Mexico. Pissing of Vergara would be very spiteful as SUM's biggest money makers have been their various Mexican soccer properties - InterLiga, the Mexican National Team friendlies in the U.S.
     
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  18. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ridge Mahoney from Soccer America with a couple of interesting tweets




    So, MLS could make a decent profit on this.. And Vergara is an idiot. ;)
     
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  20. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    MLS got a bargain.

    Vergara's an idiot. He might still be ahead all things figured, but he could have been much, much more ahead.
     
  21. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    ....and that answers multiple questions.
     
  22. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sold at a loss!!! :eek:

    He must've been desperate to get out or he figures that he wasn't going to burn the bridges he made during his time in the league with the other owners.
     
  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vergara is a very good business man. Terrible owner. I would be surprised about that. Unless Vergara got to keep his share of SUM.
     
  24. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One last thought about the poison of Vergara from me. The guy went out and registered the names Los Angeles FC and Los Angeles SC recently - not because he wanted to rebrand his team that way but because he wanted control of those names after he sold his team to MLS so he could hold any new owner up for ransom if they wanted to use those.
     
  25. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps Disney would like to get back into the sports ownership game?

    The Mighty Goats?
     
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