2013-2014 Off-season rumors, news, opinions and hijinks

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  1. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My biggest takeaway from Kasper's crap is that we were paying Jakovic a guaranteed salary of $300k. That is absolutely ridiculous. No wonder we don't have any cap space. There's also the circular argument that we couldn't afford the DP salary from the allocation player because of acquiring offseason players, including Parke, who was acquired when we gave the # 1 allocation spot.
     
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  2. DecadeOfDCU26

    DecadeOfDCU26 Member+

    May 2, 2007
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meh...at least it gives reasoning for trading for the trade....whether or not you agree with it is on you.
     
  3. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I had a teacher from Buffalo. At the start of class, I fell to the ground and grabbed my knee. I spent the rest of the day in the office.
     
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  4. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looking up Kasper's info on the DC page, he's been the GM since 2007. Discounting the two open cup trophies, because I don't put a whole lot of worth in the competition, we haven't won a thing. Further, given the quote from his page below, the lack of trophies and sorry state of our salary cap is all on him. This is just more evidence that our ownership doesn't give a damn.

    "As the team’s GM, Kasper works closely with the coaching staff in identifying and signing talent, developing a draft strategy, creating closer ties to foreign clubs and managing all player personnel matters including trades and negotiating player contracts."
     
  5. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. NASI GORENG

    NASI GORENG Member+

    Feb 19, 2013
    fairfax
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    i think i'm at a point right now that i reached with the redskins nearly a decade ago...

    if i remain emotionally attached to this team (under this management) i will definitely go insane


    so for my own health i'm cutting the cord. watching a game involving DC is still possible but i just cant invest what i used to in Uniteds' fortune
     
  7. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Reading Kasper's quotes, it seems DC does have cap space left, but not enough for $300k+ players. What I don't get is what the hell we're doing with our allocation money. Or why Philly isn't picking up part of Parke's salary.
     
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  8. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    That's nothing. DC United has become the Bullets (that's Wizards to you young 'uns.) With the Bullets you knew that every decision was going to go wrong and any success had a half-life of about 2 years.

    35 years and counting.
     
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  9. Alejandro 10

    Alejandro 10 Member+

    Feb 15, 2001
    Club:
    DC United
    I just saw White's outgoing tweets, and I have to say, "He's staying classy!"
     
  10. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looking at the breakdown of the players salaries, after the clean house that was done and prior to the new additions, we were at 1.65m. The seven players that we added cost at least 1.35m bringing the team to about 3m, which is probably about what the cap is for 2014. Now taking into account only the first 20 players count against the cap, then DC is about 200k below the cap. Though I have no idea how much the players earned in raises for being part of a record breaking team.
     
  11. NASI GORENG

    NASI GORENG Member+

    Feb 19, 2013
    fairfax
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    i grew up more into collegiate basketball but adopted the local team after moving into the area

    dropped them once they changed the name...easily one of the dumbest rebrands in sports history
     
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  12. notebook

    notebook Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    Is this trade a group / MLS decision or a Kasper / DC United decision? Is the deal basically that since our ownership group does not want to spend money, they were asked to clear the way for the teams (Union / Sounders) who want to the spend money to sign Edu and Pappa? And Parke is basically some small consideration for clearing the way - and who knows maybe even that is because Parke needs / wants to leave Philly.

    At any rate seems like the ownership group has basically thrown in the towel on the season. Hope they can muster some sort of decent performance for opening day. Then on to baseball season.
     
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  13. NASI GORENG

    NASI GORENG Member+

    Feb 19, 2013
    fairfax
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    doubtful on that

    but if so this is STILL a massive fail (Chicago's disfunctional FO managed to steal Magee while "clearing the way" for a league sanctioned move)
     
  14. GumbyG

    GumbyG Member+

    DC United
    Mar 22, 2007
    Chesapeake, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Allright, reality check on suicide notes and throwing in towels...o_O I'm disappointed in this trade, and more disappointed we couldn't get contracts done with less of a salary cap hit in the end. But if you look at last year's roster and this year's roster.... son of a beyotch. It's night and day. Even this trade made us better for 2014. If we really were down to under $300K of cap space left - it was at worst a sideways move in that context. There's some question as to if a guy we could get coming through allocation would be someone we'd pick up anyway, the first run through. MLS is overvaluing these contracts, given what we've heard of Pappa and Edu's. As for our acquisitions being slow... I'd rather have good slow players than bad fast players. They're not Jaime in his last year slow. We've got work to do, but we've got a formidable team now... so you can release the trigger, gently return the hammer to it's upright position, and remove the gun from your mouth.:D
     
  15. Sharkbait

    Sharkbait Member

    Aug 9, 2003
    Cary NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Garth Lagerwey, come home to save us.
     
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  16. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think that was his mouth he was talking about of. Hell, we all know he is full of shit, so YOU figure it out.
     
  17. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What did he write?
     
  18. DecadeOfDCU26

    DecadeOfDCU26 Member+

    May 2, 2007
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alejandro gave off the sarcastic vibe to me....but it's not it's just your typical "thanks for the memories" stuff
     
  19. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia






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  20. NASI GORENG

    NASI GORENG Member+

    Feb 19, 2013
    fairfax
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    not quite and i'm nowhere near suicidal

    all i'm saying is: why throw in that pick?

    having parke might not be terrible...i like him actually. but why give away the allocation pick too?

    this team looks better on paper but we still have a weak midfield and several question marks in key places all over the field which could have and should been taken care of within our budget
     
  21. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Again, this argument isn't one. I mean, hopefully your standards aren't just "do better than we did in 2013", right?

    It doesn't matter. Even if we have no interest whatsoever in the players coming through, other teams do, and so the allocation slot has real value -- hence the number of teams that have been offering trades to us for the slot over the last couple of weeks. We all but gave it away.

    Did you think we had a formidable team in 2009 or 2011? We have improved -- it'd be hard not to have -- but since we can't hold possession or make dangerous passes out of the midfield, this is still not a team that can prevent being pinned back in its defensive third for most or all of a match. Out midfield is going to be last year's midfield. That's the opposite of formidable. :)
     
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  22. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    This looks to be a team instead of being out of the playoff race at the beginning of July, they may hold off until early September.
     
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  23. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly.
     
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  24. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    It's funny, until very recently I was thinking DC had won the off-season. Now I think you're being overly optimistic.
     
  25. suppitty

    suppitty Member

    Mar 15, 2004
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IMO this move basically comes down to a GM and Coach that are in the last year of their respective contracts, and are trying to make moves that give the club a shot at making the playoffs this year, (theoretically helping them to get extensions.)

    In a straight swap, Jeff Parke probably gives us a better chance at winning in 2014 than Ethan White. Beyond 2014 is tough to say, but I'm guessing White will have at least decent value in MLS from '15 onward, while it's unknown how long Parke will be able to play at a decent-MLS-starter level.

    The other (and possibly larger) element of the trade is the Allocation swap. I get that we probably couldn't afford Maurice Edu, but I would have LOVED to give Marco Pappa a chance. Either the DK/BO braintrust does not rate Pappa (why not?!), or we don't even have the "salary cap space" to go from Parke @~200k to Pappa @300k. (I'm not sure which answer would be more frustrating.)

    The only possible silver lining in this move is that the 6th allocation spot might be at the top of the pecking order by the time the summer transfer window opens. It's likely that there will be a greater selection of players in the summer window, and we could have a greater need open at that time. Regardless, I'll take Ethan White + Pappa over Parke + Player TBD any day. Dumb move by a pair of individuals that are running out of time to save their jobs.
     

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