Is it time to consider a team WITHOUT Altidore?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by DCURFK, Dec 17, 2013.

  1. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lampard, ballack, Gerard do
     
  2. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Consistent basis meaning 100% of the time
     
  3. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Consistent doesn't have to be a 100% of the time it's a difficult shot he took it well
     
  4. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Well it depends on your own personal definition of consistent.

    Sorry I guess I should have said "100% of the time"

    Anways, this is getting off topic
     
  5. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hahah fair enough sir
     
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  6. KC-Chas.

    KC-Chas. New Member

    Jun 5, 2013
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Jozy sees very little of the ball at Sunderland mainly because the team's midfield sucks. When Sunderland does get into the final 3rd his team rarely looks for him and reverts into very selfish football. It's been getting better, but still pretty dreadful play from Sunderland these days.
     
  7. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Nice hold up play by Altidore in today's victory against ManU. He's improved on the aerials even winning a long one towards the end. S'land are slowly getting better organized. 4 wins 2 draws and 1 loss in the last 7 across all competitions.
     
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  8. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, Altidore wins a penalty while Adam Johnson romps. Kind of a shame they didn't have Altidore take it.

    It will take scoring some goals for a forward to cement his place.
     
  9. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Letting Jozy get the goal would have been nice cause he earned it but you don't stop your teammate from the hat trick and even without the goal he just needs to start playing better to get more minutes in general. The team is starting to do better if he gets minutes he will find the net.
     
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  10. Luis Suarez

    Luis Suarez Member

    Jul 14, 2013
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, it is time to consider a team without Dempsey
     
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  11. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Screwed the pooch on a nice dummy by Johnson for what would have been a likely goal. Wasn't as strong in the air this time out but was involved in the build up to the last two goals.

    Dempsey needs to pick it up.
     
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  12. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Yup...can't say I'm not completely worried about Altidore but I'm for sure more worried about Dempsey. I don't think him and Jones' spots are guaranteed in the starting 11
     
  13. SPA2TACU5

    SPA2TACU5 Member+

    Jul 27, 2001
    ATX
    "Is it time to consider a team WITHOUT Dempsey?"
     
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  14. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Said this a while ago. A slump is only temporary when you come out of it. He has yet to show any signs of that.
     
  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I personally will not be concerned with Altidore, Dempsey or anyone until I see how they play in USA Kits. If they look flat in March and in May...
    ... then I will consider the "team without ___" bandwagon that seems to be forming with pitch forks and torches.

    Until then I say just relax.
     
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  16. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really?

    At this point in time we just have to live and die with whatever Dempsey we get. Simply there is not one else with his track record available to the team.

    Altidore has already been benched been by Klinsi for poor performances and he lacks Dempsey's track record.
     
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  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I am leaning toward this way of thinking. Dempsey is truly one of the only players on the team who could score at anytime, from any angle from any distance.
    And when he shoots he sometimes has a scorers lucky bounce as we saw against England.
     
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  18. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Dempsey has 1 goal since June the 2nd which was a fairly simple flick from ~6 yrds out. His other goal was a really bad PK that should have been saved and that's it. According to Fulham's radio he "didn't look like the old Clint Dempsey" vs. Norwhich in the FA Cup, and really did nothing last week. As of this moment I'd rather see AJ start over Dempsey. However, that can all change if Dempsey bags three goals by the end of his loan.

    I think it's clear that 3 players really need to step things up:
    Jozy (despite the circumstances, he's got to do better)
    Dempsey
    Jones
     
  19. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I agree, but there was none of that in over his 900+ minutes played with Seattle...and that's versus MLS competition
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Well club slumps don't always translate to the National team. Too many different factors and variables that go into it such as coaching, teammates, service, chemistry etc.
     
  21. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Dempsey hasn't played well at all for the USMNT since June the 2nd so it seems to be correlating. I know it's tough to accept (it's tough for me too cause I'm a fan) but I think it's pretty evident he's past his prime.
     
  22. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Well, Altidore went through a funk too.

    He got out of it with a great string of goals. I am hoping the same applies to Dempsey.
     
  23. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Thing is, Altidore was at least scoring consistently at the club level.
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    But as I said, there isn't always a correlation.
     
  25. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Sure? but when someone only scores once in over 1,000+ mins for club or country since June the 2nd and he's considered one of your better players I think that's cause for concern and raises some red flags...Thing is with Jozy we weren't playing to his strengths and we even had a stretch of time we were playing with three DM's...hell we put Sacha on the wing. Now we know how to play to his style and he's done well for us.
     
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