I don't think it is - it's a different business, but it's still business. The reason ADs push for their coaches to other schools is that it's a win-win for them, very much in a business sense. For a recent example, football coach Charlie Strong going from Louisville to Texas puts Louisville all over ESPN for a few days, raising their profile and having their accomplishments highlighted, while the new coach they hire will cost them half of what they were paying Charlie Strong, because he hasn't yet had the same success. If he has the same success, they'll have to raise his salary scale - but then he'll also jump ship to a bigger program in a few years, and the cycle will restart. Louisville gets winning teams and exposure, but is not saddled with a massive salary (and ego) long-term. The programs that CAN handle the massive salaries of the top coaches (Alabama, Texas, Ohio State etc) are consistent revenue-producers. Not to mention there is alumni (shareholder?) pressure to make those glamour hires and pay those salaries. Coaching is also different in that there is not necessarily the expectation to stay in the same place forever, unlike say an executive rising through the ranks at T-Mobile or Exxon. ADs understand coaches are going to come and go. Again, it's a business difference - but still a business. I do agree with your general point that even modest D1 programs look down on D2 coaches. It may not always be mere snobbery; there is so much competition for so few positions that there usually isn't any compelling reason to look beyond candidates with D1 experience.
Troy HC to Colorado State as asst. If I were in the ACC and Notre Dame hired Janet Rayfield, I would be very happy.
I get it now and can definitely see the big time exposure a school gets from their AD calling an AD at another school in the same conference to recommend his/her assistant women's soccer coach for the open head coaching job at the other school. The key word here is different. Never said it wasn't a business, but it's NOT the same business as the the corporate world and what makes sense in one doesn't always (usually) makes sense in the other. Actually having been on hiring committees and talking with others who have also been on many more hiring committees it actually usually is snobbery. Perhaps you have experience to the contrary, however that has not been my experience.
Assoc. Head Coach has been on the phone all day telling recruits that shs is getting the position, and they just have to go through the process?
Good for her. We have talked with her several times with my oldest daughter and she seems very personable and very capable.
What about Steve Swanson to ND? He and Bobby Clarke are tight. Were at Dartmouth and Stanford together???
Clark's primary title at Stanford actually was Director of Soccer, as he coached the men's program while overseeing both the women's and men's teams. One of his first tasks was hiring a women's coach and he tabbed Steve Swanson, whom he had worked closely with during their years together at Dartmouth (where Swanson was the women's coach). Swanson, of course, now is head coach of the Virginia women's team that has gone nearly unbeaten (24-1-0) and is two games away from winning the 2013 NCAA title. Swanson ultimately spent large chunks of 10 seasons working in close proximity to Clark, five each at Dartmouth and Stanford. Along the way, some things naturally rubbed off. "I nearly got a Scottish accent from being around Bobby so long," jokes Swanson. "Whatever success I have in the game is directly related to that man. It's hard to spend time with him and not learn many important things. I picked his brain all those years." Swanson holds fond memories of the cooperative spirit between Clark's men's programs and his women's programs during those 10 years. "At Dartmouth, the budget was pretty limited and I'll never forget Bobby insisting with an equipment sponsor that if they wanted to sponsor the men's soccer team, they also would have to sponsor the women," says Swanson, who also helped coach the Upper Valley Lightning local youth club team that Clark had helped revive. "At Stanford, it was similar as the men's and women's programs ran our summer camps together and combined a lot of our fundraising and things like that. It was very much a partnership with the programs and that's something I miss. But Bobby and I were together a lot - our wives likely would say too much. One of the things I always enjoyed and admired was how inclusive Bobby was. A lot of people are not that way. It's their territory and they want to control their turf."
Where/when are the Swanson quotes from? Is that recent? Clearly, it's an interesting proposition. What does ND offer that Swanson does not have at UVA? UVA is one of the top 5 public schools in the country, great town, great resources, currently a great team and can recruit at the highest levels. Not sure it's worth the added pressure he would feel at ND but maybe he's ready for a change? I doubt it. BUT I don't think ND is going to be told who they can interview or hire as their ws coach. If there was an ACC bylaw about in-conference coaches, I bet it won't apply here or ND would just pay a small fine or something. I guess you never know, I'm sure ND has ticked off a few ACC folks for their half-hearted commitment to ACC football. That was supposed to be why they're in the ACC isn't it?
Based on the economic plan set up for the NWSL, what kind of salary do you think Randy Waldrum will receive as the Dash coach. More, less, or about the same as he made at ND?
Don't know how reliable my sources are but for Notre Dame I hearing: Swanson Stone Lipsitz Snow Hale Rayfield
Hale has done well at Arkansas, but not ready for Notre Dame. Once again I ask, based on location, resources and conference, what has Rayfield done of significance?
Based on him only being a HC for 2 years I would agree. Need to see him do what he has for longer. More of a risk than Notre Dame needs to take. It's one of the best 3 jobs in the country. On the converse, you could make the argument that he has done the most with what he has of all the candidates except Stone. Surprised I didn't hear Nolan. It is surely Swanson or Stone's if they want it. Think you could throw Snow into the Rayfield category as head scratchers. Lipsitz has don't it longer, but Hale has went farther in the tournament and is 2-0 against him. Sure the order is: Swanson- It's his if he wants it Stone- Fits everything they want I am sure Lipsitz- Has good regional ties, has turned around an abysmal program and a big enough name. Snow- Sure he is on their list. Has underachieved everywhere he went but AD's seem enamored with big school experience.
what are the best 3 jobs in the country? have you ever watched Stone on the sideline? I don't know if that is "everything they want"
A year ago Stanford would have been #2. And UNC? That's only a great job for Anson. All his successors will be measured against him. How do UCLA basketball coaches fare in the Wooden comparison?