Clattenburg at It Again

Discussion in 'Referee' started by RedStar91, Jan 2, 2014.

  1. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
  2. CardsAsAWeapon

    Apr 28, 2013
    Oh man, the daily fail. Highest standards of journalism anywhere. :sick: Also, given what players call referees I think it's a little bit unfair to castigate a referee for responding in kind.

    What do people think of the non-call on the Alcaraz handling though? To me I'd call that self-defense and play on, but I can also see the case for 'arm in an unnatural position => deliberate handling'. (Also with the direction Alcaraz was facing and the position of Clattenburg/his ARs, pretty much none of them would have a clear view of it - but with the direction/slow speed the ball rebounded they'd have to know it didn't hit his chest.)
     
  3. themaa

    themaa Member

    Oct 14, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Is that the same one Rooney went to?
     
  5. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
  6. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The details are hysterical:

    I'm sure all communication from Southampton's players toward referees is always more benign than this and that the club's players never say anything that rises to the level of "insult."
     
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  7. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    Actually on a scale of 1-10, (10 highest), that's an 11 for a put down. Those who saw the match will recognize that Lallana acted rather foolishly on at least two occasions, but since he is a "player" his actions aren't reportable.

    I have never been the biggest fan of Clattenburg (aside to PH...just slightly below Collina), but he is a really good referee, and I would rather he take charge of the big match now in England instead of Howard Webb.
     
  8. campbed

    campbed Member

    Oct 13, 2006
    New Hampshire, USA
    Ermmm. Is the rank hypocrisy not lost on anyone else but me?

    So this is THE bar that players wish us to hold THEM to? Sure, that works for me. (but won't see any games finishing 11v11....)
     
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  9. Englishref

    Englishref Member

    Jul 25, 2004
    London, England
    Southampton are probably starting to regret their decision to be so open about this whole saga now, given the ridicule they're facing from all corners about getting so het up by such a harmless comment.
     
  10. CardsAsAWeapon

    Apr 28, 2013
    Really? Wow. If that's what got them so wound up it's a good thing none of them have a badge and a whistle. Good lord.
     
  11. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought Mark had a very good FA Cup match today
     
  12. GoDawgsGo

    GoDawgsGo Member+

    Nov 11, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At what again?
     
  13. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At what point does Clattenberg need to wear a recording device? Two accusations in two years? With two different clubs? No pattern here..:rolleyes:
     
  15. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Well this Lallana thing is barely an accusation. Assuming he said it, if Lallana disagreed with the statement all he has to do is to say so (and then conduct himself on the field accordingly)
     
  16. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    But what he is "accused" of saying this time is hardly abusive or problematic.

    Anyone know if the comm systems they use are voice activated so that the ARs/4th will hear what he says?
     
  17. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    News just in, a ref has been sanctioned for making a play on advantage signal in a game yesterday. According to the complaint, a player from red team obstructed a player from blue team while blue was attacking. The blue player managed to keep a hold of the ball and continued with the attack. The ref perhaps sensing that some players might expect a whistle for the obvious infringement, proceeded to raise both arms up together with palms up, while running in the direction blue was attacking. The defending team (red) accused the ref of favoring the blue team.

    The ref has been suspended pending the outcome of the investigation.
     
  18. refontherun

    refontherun Member+

    Jul 14, 2005
    Georgia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reminds me a little of a tournament I did in Florida. Black team v White team (uniforms I mean). A player of African ethinicity from the black team, recklessly tackled a caucasian girl from the white team. When the coach, also of African decent, inquired about the card, the referee replied, "the black girl tackled the white girl recklessly" (referring their uniforms, of course). The black team filed a complaint of racial bias against the referee. It wasn't me, thank god.
     
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  19. grasskamper

    grasskamper Member

    Feb 22, 2010
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Is the video available anywhere?
     
  20. jayhonk

    jayhonk Member+

    Oct 9, 2007
    J'Can, if you were a journalist, you would be fired.
     
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  21. Thezzaruz

    Thezzaruz Member+

    Jun 20, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Huh? You mean this one? -> https://vine.co/v/hYHM2WgxvgA
     
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  22. camconcay

    camconcay Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Feb 17, 2011
    Georgia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I read this or a similar post online some time ago and it has stuck with me. Seems many clubs are going with black and white uniforms so it is common to get white uniforms playing black uniforms. I have (sadly) consciously changed to saying the player in white (or #xx white) and the player in black (#xx black). Saying a Caucasian person is white or an African American person is black to me is not at all racist but in today's climate it is best to avoid (try to anyway) any situation that will be used against you like this.
     
  23. Paper.St.Soap.Closed

    Jul 29, 2010
    Although I know it's all in how some takes it, according to a variety of press sources (including a Gallup poll) either term is acceptable and neither would be considered racist.
     
  24. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    level of journalism matches the level of the charge in question. a WTF charge results in (Seriously???) journalism...... :p
     
  25. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    the guy just ran 70 yards on a dead sprint and now has to run back the other way. he is probably thinking "useless SOB! Now I have to run back the other way! Crap!"

    If you have ever sprinted more than ten yards one way and then have to stop on a dime and go back the other then you can perfectly understand his reaction! :D
     

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