The 2013 In Season NFL Thread

Discussion in 'Football' started by Alberto, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    How would Romo be out of the league? That's an insane comment. He's in that same 'midzone' as Ryan and Flacco - a good QB with the potential to make the odd Pro Bowl who could win if the team around him was top quality and stable, but nothing more. Unlike Ryan who went #5 overall after being 'Johnny Utah All American Hero' through college he was a UDFA who didn't start a single game for something like 3 years, and unlike Ryan the media just really don't like him.

    Wilson is a great QB, an outsider for MVP (though nobody but Manning is winning it this season), still too early to tell though. ;)
     
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  2. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Romo isn't better than Flynn and he's dangerously close to being out of the league. I just don't think Romo is going to be able to lead a team anywhere. He is the product of the media and has played that card to a T.
     
  3. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    That same media jump all over him on the back of any loss, and don't give him too much credit for wins. They love to hammer on about 4th quarter comeback wins, but have done a great job keeping a secret of Tony 'junktime choker' Romo having more per-start than any other active player to with over 6 or so seasons starting. He's one ofthe most overly-criticised players in the entire league - if Romo has 'no place' in the league, then only 10-12 guys do. On what criteria do you figure he's that poor?

    Flynn's likely got a job as Green Bay's backup for the next several seasons I think/hope, though that's a different matter.
     
  4. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    ??? o_O He's 62-44 as a starter for a moderately talented team, has a career TD/I ratio better than 2/1, and his best comp at 9 years is Terry Bradshaw... he's nowhere close to playing himself out of the league, or even out of a starting job.
     
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  5. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    They were on this big BC kick while he was in college. BC wasn't all that while Ryan was there, and they've now gone back to being a hockey school or something on that level.

    Palmer was close to elite status before that injury, and never got back. Plus, he was playing for a shit team. I think he had a lot of people rooting for his return, and when it didn't work out, he kept getting hype anyway for a while.

    There's been such little criticism of Ryan, and not just that but excuses made for him (by a media whose typical concept is 'QB = all of team') that it is beyond comedy at this point.

    It's just something that irritates me about the NFL media coverage, though you see it in all sports to an extent - Rooney ballooned a shot over earlier in the Shakhtar game by 5-odd feet and the commentators reactions was "brilliant effort and idea, he was unlucky that didn't go in". :p[/quote]

    Cassel is still getting props from that season he took over for Brady in NE. And I thin he's still getting some quiet mileage out of being the guy who was a backup at USC being possibly the best out of the half-dozen or so QBs Pete Carroll groomed in less than a decade for Sunday football.

    Without the star, Romo would be on a lesser team, likely, or a backup on a better one, but he'd still be in the League.

    No need for a smiley- he IS the best QB of that class. But the media still wants to go with the draft and the developmental hype Luck and Griffin received.

    I wouldn't call Brees or Rodgers or Roethlisberger or Eli mediocre, either. Jury's still out, IMO, on Alex and Colin and Cam.
     
  6. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I'm surprised the sports media has been so quiet about the fact the Peyton (45) will likely break Brady's single-season TD record (50). That will give him 2 of the 3 most prolific touchdown-passing seasons of all time (49 & 50+).
     
  7. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Hmm-- I'm hearing about it three times a day...:unsure:
     
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  8. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I haven't heard anything about it myself- maybe it's just the times I'm watching ESPN. But it would be what- Manning's 863rd NFL record in some category or another? Seems almost unproductive to report on it a whole bunch.
     
  9. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    Nah, only like his 71st or so by my count - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning#NFL_records

    And he has the nerve to call himself a quarterback...
     
  10. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Still though, 9-11 . . .
     
  11. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    And all without cheating. ;)

    :p
     
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  12. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yeah, but look at the opposition. An unavoidable loss to the Steelers, and a tough one to the Ravens and the pick-6 in the SB against the Saints. No way could he have known Sharp would jump that route. He has two questionable losses to the Videotapers and four others I don't recall.

    Exactly. He should probably be 11-9.
     
  13. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Peyton out-quarterbacked Rex Grossman in a Super Bowl. That has to count for something, right?
     
  14. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    With all the hype given Tim Tebow (and Danny Wuerffel before him), it's very telling that the guys from Florida who've actually had a lengthy career are Grossman and Shane Matthews. Now, Shane didn't play much (played in 32 games, starting 22, in 14 seasons) but he stuck around a long time.
     
  15. GiuseppeSignori

    Jun 4, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd still be surprised if Cutler doesn't get re-signed by the Bears this off-season. No way Emery and Trestman are going to give the keys to the offense to a 34 year-old journeyman, even if he is playing out of his mind right now.
     
  16. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Cutler is 30, and has never had a stretch like this in his career, has he? At some point you have to give McCown his due or you lose the locker room entirely...
     
  17. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's talk in the Nashville papers that the Titans are going to go after Cutler and bring the hometown kid back to Nashvegas.
     
  18. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Looks to me like a very good situation for him-- the o-line should be improving for several years, the receiveing corps is decent, and they are pretty much in a position to draft "best players"-- there doesn't seem to be any desperate position of need.

    Then again, I thought Flynn would do well in Seattle...
     
  19. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do we really know Flynn is that good? I know he was beat out by some pretty good players but I don't think he is a slam dunk to be good at this point.
     
  20. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    I do think though that he is very much a 'system' QB with a number of limitations, but he is pretty smart on the field and GB's system is the one that suits him perfect, so he's an ideal backup for Rodgers if the price is right (and I think the Seattle/Oakland/Buffalo debacles have all but ended his chances of ever being a starter, especially as he'll be 29 by the start of next season). And so long as it stays that way, and Green Bay get to keep him on the cheap for a good few years, I'll be a very happy man. ;)
     
  21. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Why would they throw in the towel on Locker when he showed improvement until he got hurt?
     
  22. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm

    Got to say I didn't notice much; maybe they didn't either... His numbers for this year aren't really much better than Fitzpatrick's.
     
  23. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Watch the games... Locker was impressive this season.
     
  24. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    No Matt Flynn sucks... If you get cut from Oakland and Buffalo in the same year that is a pretty good indication you can't play.
     
  25. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bud's dead. New ownership wants to make their mark. Sources say that Munch is likely on the way out as well.
     

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