Amistosos x Honduras and x Chile, 16 and 19/11/13 [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Denilson70, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. FiveXChampion

    FiveXChampion Member

    Sep 23, 2000
    California
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's going to change once Fred's back.
     
  2. Jiripoca

    Jiripoca Member

    Jul 16, 2013
    London - Sao Paulo - Peruibe
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yes let`s hope so. This comes back to a post I made a few weeks ago about Brasil being too wasteful in their finishing and it costs us tournaments, against classy teams we simply cannot afford to waste chance after chance and hope another one comes along. Yes get Romario and Ronaldo to coach the strikers, can`t do any harm to have the most brilliant finishers passing on their wisdom.
     
  3. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    Robinho broke Pele record most goals against Chile. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  4. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Don't give me Buffon as a good GK... all european GKs were showed up in the Confederate Cup as weak and over hyped. And this good only for the Brazilian league is the European prejudice, because every single player in that team was good only for the Brazilian league at some point, and with very few exceptions they made the Brazilian team due to their performance on the Brazilian league and were sold to Europe to become the star players on their Euro teams.. all of this coming from good players only on the Brazilian league..

    Cruzeiro can compete with the super teams in Europe right now, they have over 80 points in the very balanced Brazilian league.
     
  5. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    No Frangalieri!!! why would you leave Jefferson out? he's the best GK in Brazil currently
     
  6. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Daniel Alves in 2013:
    13 games, 0 goals, 1 assist, 1 own goal, 2.15 fouls committed per game, a handful of mediocre performances, a poor crosser

    Maicon:
    4 games, 1 goal, 1 assist, 1.25 fouls committed per game, better crosses, solid performances in practically each game.
     
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  7. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  8. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA

    André Rocha, blogueiro da ESPN brasilera e antes do Globo Esporte, postou um ótimo resumo da evolução da Seleção Brasileira em 2013, começando com a re-estréia de Luiz Felipe Scolari contra a Inglaterra até o jogo de ontem.

    André diz que Scolari conseguiu montar uma equipe, assim executando um trabalho de três anos em apenas um, mas que muita coisa pode acontecer até o início da Copa do Mundo.

    Eis um trecho:

    Base definida, Felipão e Parreira (Century's Best: quase havia me esquecido do Parreira, que é o coordenador técnico) sintonizados, bom ambiente entre jogadores e comissão técnica, proposta de jogo assimilada, confiança readquirida com o título, Neymar afirmado como protagonista e craque do torneio.

    A derrota para a Suíça pode ser descartada, com a grande maioria voltando de férias na temporada europeia. Na sequência, seis vitórias. Vinte gols marcados e apenas dois sofridos. Mais que isso, a oportunidade de fazer testes e acelerar ainda mais a definição do grupo.

    Felipão resgatou Maicon, Ramires e agora Robinho, autor do gol da vitória sobre o Chile por 2 a 1 em Toronto. Lucas Leiva também voltou a ser chamado. O Moura perdeu espaço. Maxwell se afirmou como opção para a lateral-esquerda.

    E surge mais uma possibilidade: ataque com Robinho e Neymar soltos, sem referência, promovendo intensa movimentação. Ideia do final da "Era Mano" e uma opção viável se Fred não se recuperar fisicamente e Jô seguir sem comprometer, mas com baixa produtividade como pivô e artilheiro.

     
  9. Jiripoca

    Jiripoca Member

    Jul 16, 2013
    London - Sao Paulo - Peruibe
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I`ve just watched the Chile goal and I am not impressed with JC. It was a shot from outside the area, and JC never even moved?! Dont get me wrong I`m a fan of JC but he just stood there and watched it lob into the net, WTF?
     
  10. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    I don't think he could of done anything about it. It was well place IMO.
     
  11. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    It was just a good play overall and a collective failure on our part.

    Great pass by Chilean keeper. David Luiz gave the player too much space as he didn't close down. Luiz's positioning also screened JC from knowing where the player was. And it was also an opportunistic, well placed shot. Positioning could've been a bit better. But I count this as rust too - he isn't playing now.
     
  12. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    I wouldn't rule out Dede or Miranda, to be honest. I prefer them to Marquinhos right now. A lot will depend on how regularly the PSG man plays.
     
  13. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    I think Dede might get the nod. Only because he was called up more which give enough time to evaluate.
     
  14. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Has Felipão called up Miranda at all?
     
  15. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Only in Scolaris first game against England.
     
  16. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yeah, I have my doubts whether he has a real chance. Even Henrique seems more poised for a spot.
     
  17. DerMongerer

    DerMongerer Member

    Jun 5, 2004
    Wow this was a pleasant surprise to have the Selecao and La Roja come to my city. This was the first futbol match I've ever watched live in person in my entire life. I will remember this forever.

    I personally would like to see more of Willian. He's impressed in both games he played this month. A big upgrade to Lucas Moura who is a big disappointment imho. He hasn't done anything for the Selecao in his entire tenure other than slotting home a penalty vs. France, I don't want him anywhere near the WC14 squad. He mostly dribbles aimlessly towards nowhere ending up getting dispossed. Willian is a much better passer than he is. He nearly created a goal or two last night.
     
  18. Kevin_405

    Kevin_405 Member

    Jul 30, 2012
    Very unimpressive performance from Neymar. Negated one goal by virtue of being off side and another was a sitter. There were other chances he got that should have been put away.
    Too much ball holding too and over dribbling at times.

    One bit of defensive lapse on part of David Luiz + Julio Cesar led to the goal .

    Other wise a very impressive win to actually watch it live in the stadium was the icing on the cake.
     
  19. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
     
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  20. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Ya surely dede will make much more sense than a 19 year old guy at this point. But i think this is not the same dede as he was before injury right? He was supposed to be the next big thing for Brazil after Neymar. He has faded a bit now with some lackluster performances.
     
  21. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Brazil is looking like Brazil again.
    Kudos to Scolari.
     
  22. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Dede has been amazing for Cruzeiro, you wonder why that defense is so solid, don't look past Dede and Nilton. Dede has the most disarmes than anyone in the Brasileirao by a lot too. Last I looked it was almost 40 more. Once you make it look so simple, it kind of loses it's luster I guess. Plus Cruzeiro is not that much of a plataform to the National Team. Last year everyone from Flu was getting to the NT because they were champions, Cruzeiro dominates and nobody is even looked at for the NT. Dede has been as good as ever.
     
  23. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Dedé struggled early but had a very good second half of the season. And I'm pretty sure Willians of Inter is leading in desarmes. Maybe you meant out of CBs?
     
  24. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Dede had some stand out bad plays, but FAR from struggle. We seem to forget Thiago Silva had a horrible play in the Confed Cup actually making the game vs Uruguay competitive, but we remember the 5 bad plays Dede had over the course of 45 games seems a bit unfair.
     

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