Richmond Virginia, could be the best MLS expansion team.

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by Juan Luis Guerra, Jul 22, 2004.

  1. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    Last Night the Richmond Kickers brough to the stands almost 9,000 fans. I also spoke to a grocery man who is from Virginia and told me that soccer is very popular in Virginia and that he does not understand why they dont bring a MLS team. With last night's attendance, I just think that MLS should take a close look at this city. This A-League team, brough more fans than Dallas, San Jose and almost New England. I think MLS should go to Virginia and conduct a serious investigation and look into it. There goes my theory.
     
  2. writered21

    writered21 Member+

    Jul 14, 2001
    Middle of the Road
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, I think your theory went when you said that it was based on your conversation with a grocer.

    If MLS had pro/rel, Richmond would be a good D2 city that could fight for promotion. They are a good A-League club. They are not an MLS expansion candidate by any means right now.
     
  3. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    And did you go to Virginia who brough 9k last night and conducted a study/investigation?

    thanks
     
  4. Stupid_American

    Stupid_American Member+

    Jan 8, 2003
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FWIW, while the three MLS cities you mentioned all have drawn around or below 9K at certain times, the Freddy show definitely drew more than 9K in Dallas, NE, and San Jose.
     
  5. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Must not respond....must not respond....must not insult.....
     
  6. writered21

    writered21 Member+

    Jul 14, 2001
    Middle of the Road
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I lived in Virginia for 30 years, I didn't need to.

    Thanks.
     
  7. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, what were Rick, TC and Higgybaby doing while you were conducting your investigation?
     
  8. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    It's the largest crowd in their history, numbnuts.

    I hope you're someone's sockpuppet because if you're not, I'm going to invent a time machine so I can travel back in time and convince your mother to get an abortion.

    Sachin
     
  9. rymannryan

    rymannryan New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    N.N., Virginia

    That was the largest crowd in their history, and the reason was Freddy. That's the first time they've gotten to see the wonderboy. I overheard some girls say "If Adu doesn't start, then I wasted fourteen bucks." Yeah, I'm sure these girls will make it back to some more games. :rolleyes: 9,000 is certainly not impressive in MLS, and they didn't even draw that last night. Richmond is not an expansion candidate.
     
  10. Colonel Angus

    Colonel Angus New Member

    Feb 24, 2003
    Shady Thicketts
    I go to 80% of the Richmond home games every year, and they are definately not a candidate for expansion...sorry. They usually draw between 2 and 3K.

    Last night's crowd was a wonderful event for the team, the city, and the fans...

    But expansion? No way, let's not get carried away.
     
  11. evanpemsocr

    evanpemsocr New Member

    Jun 11, 2004
    Rocky Mount, Va
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    besides richmond is too close to dc. it would not work. im sure a lot of those fans were dc fans too. richmond did do really well when they had the ncaa final four there though. one year i think they had 20k.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I love Virginia, and think MLS should at least consider an expansion team in Richmond or Virginia Beach. There are better options of course, but they should be there in the Oklahoma City category. There is quite a large population in Central to Eastern Virginia area with no pro sports teams. In fact, the Hampton Roads/Norfolk/Virginia Beach area is the most populated metropolitan area without a major pro sports franchise. That fact probably surprises people BIG TIME. Columbus dominated that stat until the last 10 years.
     
  13. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    And how close will Chivas be playing to the Galaxy? Thank you, drive thru.

    June 8, 2003 USMNT 2-1 New Zealand Univ. of Richmond Stadium (Richmond, Va.) 9,116

    Wouldn't this count as their highest attendance since this was a doubleheader?


    Thx,

    Jay!
     
  14. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Richmond will be a candidate for expansion when they have an investor(s) willing to put up the expansion fee and money to cover team and MLS operating expenses. Just like Salt Lake City was. It's that easy.
     
  15. writered21

    writered21 Member+

    Jul 14, 2001
    Middle of the Road
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It wouldn't work in Richmond or Va. Beach that way. You're not going to see Chivas Williamsburg any time soon.
     
  16. redsnapper

    redsnapper New Member

    Jul 21, 2004
    Midlothian
    Lived in Richmond for 40 years and make it to most of the Kickers home games but can not agree were ready for a MLS expansion team. Last night was the first time ive ever had to sit behind the goal. Often Richmond draws between 2 and 3 thousand at the most.

    Think everyone was caught up in Freddymania and he didnt disappoint. There was a large groan from the home town fans when his shot clanked off the crossbar. Everyone wanted to see him put one in the back of the net. :cool:
     
  17. DCFAN

    DCFAN Member

    Apr 5, 1999
    I seriously doubt that the Ukrop family would be willing to invest 10 to 20 million dollars in a soccer team in Richmond and a stadium. For those who do not know, The Ukrops are a family that has a chain of very successful grocery stores in the Richmond area. The family has also been very active in the promotion of soccer in Virginia, and even had one family member who was a decent player on the Kickers. They are successful financially in the grocery business, but I doubt that they have millions to gamble on soccer.
     
  18. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have a winner!
     
  19. rocketeer22

    rocketeer22 Member+

    Apr 11, 2000
    Oakton,VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And, without the MLB resolution of where to relocate the Expos, a new soccer stadium couldn't be built there just in case land was needed for a new baseball stadium... Or am I thinking of Virginia Beach? Or was it Arlington? DC? Perhaps Dulles/Ashburn? :eek:

    Sorry, I'm just thinking MLS should get DC United's longterm stadium issue determined before worrying about Richmond (and that is not going to happen until the MLB issue is resolved).
     
  20. GalaxyJay

    GalaxyJay New Member

    Jun 8, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    I second that...

    SLC= MLS team
    Rochester= No MLS team

    It really doesn't come down to who has the soccer history, who draws the crowds, how much local soccer interest.... it comes down to who forks over the $$$.
     
  21. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wrong on all three counts! :rolleyes:


    -G
     
  22. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    Well, after carefully reading all your post, I have to agree that Richmond Virginia should not be even considered for expansion. I try to be humble and I guess there were a bunch of facts i did not know.

    thanks
     
  23. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Though it's an unlikely candidate for MLS expansion right now, I wouldn't entirely write off the possibility of an MLS franchise in Virginia Beach/Norfolk at some point down the road.

    After all, both Columbus and Salt Lake City have smaller metro populations than Norfolk/Virginia Beach, and it's the most populous metro area in the U.S. without a major league sports team.

    From the 2000 Census:

    1. NY/NJ/..........................20.1 million
    2. LA................................15.8
    3. Chicago...........................8.8
    4. DC/Baltimore....................7.3
    5. San Fran/Oak/San Jose......6.8
    7. Boston............................5.6
    9. Dallas..............................4.9
    19. Denver...........................2.4
    24. Kansas City.....................1.7
    27. Norfolk/Virginia Beach...1.5
    31. Columbus........................1.5
    35. Salt Lake City..................1.3
     
  24. alf

    alf Member+

    Jun 29, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Dumbass. Maybe you should just not start posting random threads while speaking out of your ass. Ignorant son of a bitch.
     
  25. kayasoleil

    kayasoleil New Member

    Aug 14, 2002
    Virginia

    If you check it out, they have more than the millions (+200m to be closer to exact) to take a crack at it. The thing is, they did not get rich by being lucky and stupid. They are very smart businessmen, who just happen to be soccer nuts and they do spend their money on the sport big time. They just do not seem the type to waste their money on it.

    If the opportunity was ripe, however, I am sure they would be part of the puzzle.
     

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