This simply cannot be allowed to happen. So we'd have another inexperienced manager, while TFC gets one of the best? Holy fvkc.
Well, we don't REALLY know who was calling the shots on player decisions, but with the limited knowledge we do have, I think this would be bass ackwards. Frank is showing signs of being a good coach, but I don't think much of his time as TD. I think Marsch is a smart soccer guy who could likely be a shrewd personnel guy, but there are troubling reports of his time as a head coach. So let's take these two guys and put them in their least effective roles.
I don't think much of his work in either role. He's shat his pants twice in important matches, at home, vs. weak opponents. If not for a cavalcade of stupid reffing, the match v. TFC could have ended much differently than it did. If not for a league gift of Mike Magee, we might not even be in position to back into the "playoffs." So let's not declare him as having signs of being a good coach, YET. Marsch is unprepared, and unqualified for the top job. He NEEDS to serve a proper apprenticeship, so he can learn the craft of being a manager. He and Klopas and Ben Olsen should be cautionary tales for players wanting to jump directly into a manager role after retirement. More often than not, a direct step into the manager's role from playing ends up poorly. If Marsch really wants a career as a manager, let him be an assistant FIRST. In fact, perhaps he could be the additional outfield coach Frank's staff so desperately lacks as I type this. Maybe Marsch could then be ready to take over after a season or two as an assistant. [Once all of Franks excuses are finally exhausted, and he gets "reassigned" within the club.]
While I basically agree with you about our player acquisitions over the past couple of years, you can't have it both ways. If we have drafted and signed a bunch of mediocrity (which we haved), then a coach who has a record 10 games over .500 is showing signs of being a good coach. I don't ACTUALLY call him a good coach at this point because I do agree with you that we have woefully underperformed at the most important times over the last couple of years.
Sure we can. They stupidly overpaid for shitty players, then overpaid to correct their mistakes in acquisitions, then still put together the empty bucket in two important matches, while letting every young player ROT on the bench, while stupidly paying Maicon Santos and Wells Thompson and other mediocre veterans good money to be backups. By my view, that's shitty managing, AND shitty player acquisition. That's a whole pile of shyte. That's fair. But I look at it this way: Would any other club want to hire Klopas away from us? I kind of doubt it. After underperforming for years, and wasting THE FANS time and money while Frank underwent OJT was, and is unacceptable. So, for FVKC'S sake, don't bring in another unprepared and unqualified manager to "learn on the job," while the team sucks. That said, I can't envision a situation where Klopas' job isn't permanently secure at this point. He's "Manager-For-Life," even though he shouldn't be.
IIRC, Marsch joined the Nats w/ Bob B right after retiring and I'm guessing that as a senior player with Fake Goats he began his informal apprenticeship with Bob.
You are correct. But I contend that National team soccer is as different from MLS soccer as Indoor soccer is different from MLS soccer. Holding a camp for a few days every 6 weeks or so is an entirely different thing than preparing for a match every 4-7 days during a season. So for this reason [and others], I don't know that assisting the national team head coach adequately prepared Marsch to become a manager in MLS. And as an aside, I am more than tired of an inexperienced and unqualified and unprepared manager being given OJT, and then have to field phone calls from my ticket guy. Why should I pay to watch a schmuck to learn how to do his job, while the product sucks?
WOW, if any of this is true. Then we are going to be in trouble, next year. I know that Frankie isn't the best coach in the league, but if we move him back to TD and hire Marsch. Come on, if we are going to make a change it better be for a coach that has won and has more than one year of coaching experience. If we can't get say, Bradley, Kries or Sigi type of coaches then we are better off with Frankie.
If Bob would be given both jobs, I'd like to See Frank get a FO job. Jesus Christ, dude, where the hell have you been? Good to see ya.
I'm going to say something controversial here... There is no way Bob Bradley would come and work for Andrew. Full Stop. Let that dream just drift away.
I can't see it either, and I wouldn't want to see it anyway. But this is BigSoccer, so posts about a ride over the rainbow on the back of a unicorn are kinda normal.
I wouldn't. That set-up fails far more often than it succeeds. One person doing two full-time jobs means neither is done properly.
I would agree. But as I read Zach's post, I think he's giving Klopas the same amount of "credit" as I do. But I think it is impossible that BB would come back here, in any case. We're stuck with Klopas, and the rest of the clown college. In this context, the next best outcome would be to separate the manager and TD jobs, and get Klopas a competent assistant who has knowledge of coaching outfield players.