I see...D1 is one of those three and PSG is the only other competitive team in D1. Therefore, if Rapinoe had a role helping them win D1, ud think she would have been in the game before the 69th minute. The reason this rant is about Rapinoe instead of Heath, who is doing the exact same thing, is Heath is actually there to try and help PSG win games. But hey...ur argument is so eloquent here's what Id like u to do. In the Spring u can fly back to the West coast and we'll give u ten minutes in front of the Seattle fans at Starfire to explain why they must continue to lose games in a competition they would like to win so Megan Rapinoe can sit on the bench and watch a bunch of other women try and win the treble. Or I can sit here and hope enough French NT players get injured that Rapinoe's time isnt completely wasted.
Someone explain this to me. Tobin Heath isn't wasting her time at PSG because she's going to help them win, but Megan Rapinoe playing for Lyon is just a huge waste of time? So... she would be better off playing for some other team during the offseason where she is the star of the team and gets to play every second of every game, instead of playing for a team that is actually good and where she can learn something from her teammates? My question then is, how does that improve her as a player? In my opinion, it doesn't. Lyon are the best because they have, if not the toughest, then amongst the toughest practises. They are expected to give everything during every training, every day. That Rapinoe has chosen to play for a team like Lyon, instead of say Glasgow City like her Seattle teammate Fishlock, means that she will actually grow as a player. Fishlock meanwhile is actually wasting her time from Seattle's perspective. She may help Glasgow to win some games and earn some money, which is always useful, but she is not going return to Seattle as a better player and help them to be a little less terrible next year. Megan Rapinoe will.
I don't think either player is wasting there time. Is Rapinoe benefiting from the tough competition in Lyon? YES Is Fishlock benefiting from staying match fit at Glasgow City? YES
Very true, Fishlock is benefitting from staying fit. My point was that she's not really going to develop her game, which Rapinoe will, but of course there are other benefits like staying fit that still make playing for a team like Glasgow City worthwhile.
@kernel_thai just to add, Rapinoe joined her Lyon team less than a week before that PSG game and had not played a game in more than a month. you really expected her to get significant playing time right away? Maybe you should wait a few games into the season before you declare her worthlessness to Lyon.
If ur saying Rapinoe wasnt playing because she was coming off an injury that's a valid response. It's still a little surprising considering how bad D1 is and PSG is one of the few big league games. On the other hand I dont consider fitness an issue. She is a professional soccer player and is responsible for her own fitness. Even with the heal injury I have no doubt she was in playing shape but probably not game sharp.
Ive made this very clear in my previous posts that this is not about whether anyone thinks Rapinoe is good enough to start on Lyon...that is an entirely different and equally interesting argument. Nor is it about whether the Lyon experience helps her improve. As long as Pinoe thinks she improving her game playing in a much more technical environment why would I argue with her. and no, the Lyon practices r only hard by European standards. Every European player who comes to the US comments on how different the practices r. U can reference Siger, Grings and Pohlers off the top of my head. My argument is simply this and because ur post r usually quite intelligent I love to hear ur response. Guignol is simply in denial on the issue . If all Rapinoe is getting out of this is improving her soccer skills and off season training, then there is absolutely no reason why she shouldnt simply return Seattle in April. The only reason for Rapinoe to be missing games in Seattle is if she is actually playing in games and helping Lyon win the Treble. They dont need another practice player and while having a back-up player is nice, she is much better off playing 90 minutes for Seattle against better competition than sitting on the bench watching Lyon overwhelm a bunch of part time players and hope someone else has bad luck so she can get in the game.
Hmm... I do definitely think that Rapinoe is improving her skills with Lyon, but I also think that she is important to the team. She will help them progress, probably in the Champions League in particular which we saw already last season when she scored in both a quarter-final and a semi-final, and aside from her wanting to stay to play in a second Champions League final and try to win this time, I think she will by that point be so good that she really deserves to stay and to not have to return right when the most important matches are coming up to a team where, let's face it, she won't win any trophies. If it's not obvious already, I also want to point out that I do not think that Rapinoe is going to primarily be a bench-player for Lyon this season, I think she will play in most games. Probably not 90 minutes every week, but no Lyon players play that much. And I don't think someone needs to be injured for her to get that starting spot. Mostly because I really think she will improve and play well enough to earn a starting spot herself, but partly also because there is actually more space for her on the Lyon team this season. The squad has been reduced from 23 to 20 players, and Bompastor has retired without them signing a new left defender, so one player who plays to the left always has to play defense. Last season it was mostly Dickenmann that Rapinoe took turns playing to the left with, but as you may have seen against PSG, Dickenmann played defense in that match.
Lyon play with three midfielders, two wingers and one striker. The three midfielders are more or less always three of Necib, Abily (who is out for the next 2 months), Henry and Bussaglia. The wingers are Rapinoe, Dickenmann, Plaza, Le Sommer, Thomis and Necib. Necib obviously plays in the midfield most of the time. Thomis plays to the right. Le Sommer can play on both sides and so can Plaza, although she seems to primarily play to the right and has played quite a lot as a right defender this season, while Dickenmann has played left defender in I believe every game so far this season.
Well splitting halves as she did last year is better than not playing. It was pretty obvious that without the unfortunate injury to Abily she would have gotten mop up minutes at best. Maybe CANAmerican is right and she still isnt fully recovered from her heel injury. U see my point tho? If she isnt at least splitting halves she isnt really helping them win CL. Whether it's emergency player, trophy wife or she's just not good enough, she doesnt need to be there past April if she isnt helping them win games. If all Lair wants her to do is watch, she can watch them fine from Seattle
primo, if pinoe had shown up in lyon and had her first practice after vacation a bit more than 6 days before the match she might have played more. secundo, heath contributes more at PSG because the squad overall is not as good. in fine, the decision is not mine but pinoe's, and if starfire is the name ofseattle's s***hole i saw on TV when i was on the west coast this summer i could say that a better place to play, more and more vocal fans might make a difference in her decision. could say, but won't. because i want this to remain civil.
I see your point, I just don't think she is there as a back-up player. Lyon's budget has been reduced and they would not bring her back if they did not have every intention of having her play. It may still be that she will be splitting halves with someone else, but that's just Lyon's way of playing. They always use all substitutions available and most of the time it is the explosive players, the wingers, that need to have fresh legs that are replaced after 45-60 minutes. As for the PSG game though, whether she was healed from her injury or not, she was never going to play more than she did because she had only returned to the team a few days prior to the match. You don't come back after a number of weeks without playing a single match and without having trained with your team more than a couple of times and immediately start a game. I'm sure you can agree that's not very realistic?
fit is not there is as much difference between being fit and being match-ready as there is between eating oreos on the couch watching soaps all day and playing for the reign.
A. Starfire is cute. I would think someone who appreciates Smart Cars would like cute. B. If Rapinoe was unable to play because of injury I would expect on the scene reporters to relay that information. This would not be necessary if France adopted a modern language. C. This isnt about how good Rapinoe is compared to other players on Lyon. If she does not meet expectations, wrap her up and send her back. If I was holding Abily or Necib hostage and not playing her u would be saying the exact same thing. D. She loves playing in Seattle...ask her. She is appreciated in Seattle and was allowed to make a choice. If Portland called about Schelin would she be allowed to make a choice? Im sure Schelin would love playing in front of 13,000 fans for every home game.
Good...as long as she plays. I have no problem with her playing in Europe...just sitting in Europe. I dont want it to be another Ohno situation.
Actually when she got back to the Reign it took a couple weeks to get her conditioning back to acceptable. That was a bit of a disappointment.
That's interesting. Necib is a fantastic mid, but she must play AM, correct? This is where she usually plays for the national team. None of these other players are a better winger than Rapinoe. IMO Nacib is one of the best mids in the world, Rapinoe right behind her.... but not putting them both on the field together is silly. Thomis plays on the wing??? that's weird, isn't it...
Where Necib plays kind of seems to depend on who else is on the pitch really. She can play AM, DM or winger. Last season it seemed like the coach wanted her to improve her defensive skills, so she played DM in almost all league games (and scored unusually few goals because of that). Recently she has played several games as a left winger because Le Sommer was injured. But generally speaking, Necib, Henry and Abily will play together with two a little lower in the field and one as a no 10, and they will switch it up during the game taking turns playing further up on the pitch. Where else would Thomis play? My memory is terrible but I can't remember her ever playing anywhere else.
Well, what modern* language can you read? One of Tolkien's constructed languages? * By your exclusion of French I presume you are not using the following definition of modern: "denoting the form of a language that is currently used, as opposed to any earlier form." But rather something that is "of or relating to the present or recent times as opposed to the remote past." So that would rule out a language like English which began diverging from other West-Germanic languages when the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes migrated to the British Isles around 450 AD. And if you want to argue that that was Old English and we speak Modern English, see the part about the first definition and that there is also a distinction between Old French and Modern French.
She plays as a winger for the national team too, but of course you can also call her a forward since wingers are outside forwards. When I think about it, Thomis was actually called up as a midfielder for the national team by the new coach though, so I'm not sure what his plan is.
how many languages can you speak? in fact elo is one of those rare players who plays exactly the same position exactly the same way every game she plays, whether for france or lyon: wide, right and vertical with a vengeance.