Moyes In/Moyes Out - Revolving Door Co. [R]

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  1. thenamestsam

    thenamestsam Member+

    Aug 8, 2013
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    They also had allowed the quality of the squad to degrade far enough that they couldn't patch their cracks quickly enough to get back into the top 4 immediately. Even if the worst happens and we did tumble to say 7th this year with a competent manager in next year we'd only be about two good signings short of being amongst the favorites for the league again. Pulling a Liverpool is a terrible thought and there is a threat there to keep in mind but it will take several years of the level of incompetence we've witnessed for the last 4 months or so.

    I don't think Moyes will be given a long enough leash to do that level of damage. The key will be making a proper manager choice next time which means no BS one man committee pulling it out of his ass, even if the one man is Fergie. There is still lots of time to rescue this from getting really bleak, not just this year but in the next several years.
     
  2. Pulp

    Pulp Member+

    Feb 13, 2013
    TO / CA
    David Moyes is Massimo Taibi in disguise.
     
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  3. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    I know where you are coming from but there are a couple of factors to put things in proper perspective.

    Despite having the highest revenues by a mile, we are behind both Chelsea and City as far as capacity to spend is concerned and not that much ahead of your lots. So in terms of actual potential to improve the team by spending, we are not that far away from dropping to 4th.

    The second factor is that at least in my opinion (and I know @The Jitty Slitter agrees with me) we are not too far away from the digital rights revolution, where clubs start making most of their money by selling legalized streams/digital content. Much like how Liverpool's demise coinciding with the Sky revolution in football made it even worse, this would be the worst time to start dropping in the entertainment scales.
     
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  4. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
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    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Its nowhere near the same.

    Liverpool were in financial crisis as early as the end of Rafa's record points run at the title.

    The bank was at the helm.

    Utd can always spend their way out of trouble - something Liverpool could not do until they were effectively purchased out of insolvency by Fenway
     
  5. Teso Dos Bichos

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  6. Father Ted

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    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Why should this be a throwaway season while we wait for Moyes to learn on the job? This is not 1986.

    Considering the shenanigans done in the transfer market by upper management this summer, I have no doubt they will stick with Moyes this whole season no matter how bad it gets.
     
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  7. tyrant

    tyrant Member

    Aug 19, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Moyes should never have brought his entire staff from Everton. I mean he was not coming from Barca or Madrid. Even if he is a qualified talented coach, does that mean that the Everton coaches are on a level necessary for Man Utd? That was the first bad sign for me.
     
  8. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Moyes is a casual manager and we're playing casually as a team. Compare Moyes attitude to SAF and it's easy to see why the team looks so nonchalant.

    Moral of the story... He needs to go. I'm officially starting the Moyes out, Klopp in campaign.
     
  9. tyrant

    tyrant Member

    Aug 19, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Klopp is not going to come in mid-season. He has a good gig at Dortmund. The only viable scenario is Moyes out, Fergie in on an emergency basis until the end of the year. His hip op went well, so I think this is not far fetched at all.

    I think if these results continue he will be back by Christmas.
     
  10. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    This is going to be a fun winter period.
     
  11. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Well, on the bright side, I know what my Xmas list will contain.
     
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  12. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    A beginner's guide to being a football hipster?
     
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  13. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    LMAO...

    Sure, does it mean I have to worship oezil?
     
  14. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Well, as the cliche goes, he has never had a bad game.
     
  15. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    In all seriousness, our offensive interplay right now is abysmal for our normal standards. And our self belief looks sapped and its not even October. And Moyes looks defeated already which scares the crap out of me.
     
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  16. tyrant

    tyrant Member

    Aug 19, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Serious question. If this type of form and results continue, how long should we give Moyes?
     
  17. JC7rox

    JC7rox Member+

    Manchester United FC, LAFC
    Jun 11, 2004
    West Coast, Cali!
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    If it were up to a lot of us, he would have been let go after the signing of Fellaini.
     
  18. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    I would have never hired him, he has no CV to run a billion dollar business.

    And no, Fergie's CV when he joined United was massively superior.
     
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  19. tyrant

    tyrant Member

    Aug 19, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I would not have hired him either. Fact is he is here now, and the question is what do we do going forward.
     
  20. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Fire him immediately before he causes any more damage?
     
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  21. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    I would ask him to invent an illness to his wife or something on those lines so that he can bow out gracefully.
     
  22. Bronaldo

    Bronaldo Red Card

    Apr 8, 2007
    Canada
    He could fake a heart attack.
     
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  23. JC7rox

    JC7rox Member+

    Manchester United FC, LAFC
    Jun 11, 2004
    West Coast, Cali!
    Club:
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    ala Vince McMahon
     
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  24. Stud83

    Stud83 Member+

    Jun 1, 2005
    Norwegian league season ends in November. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer might be the best option we could get mid-season.
     

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