THE FINAL COUNTDOWN--Arrested Transfer Development Thread

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  1. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
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    Pires was the greatest thing this world has ever seen. He could have ended world hunger or have awesome hair...he rightfully chose the latter.
     
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  2. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
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    Arsenal FC
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    England
    Us getting Ozil also is good for the Premier League in general. I'd imagine only envious/bitter Spurs journalists wouldn't welcome Mesut to English football, and even then they'd look unprofessional to say that. And all the major pundits would say as such. I can't see Wrighty (duh lol.. ) or Hansen, Neville, Savage or Lawrenson saying it's a shitty buy.

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  3. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
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    Well he was the unsung hero of the unbeaten season and the 2002 Double, so his awesome hair counted for something lol..
     
  4. Twiggy

    Twiggy Member

    May 13, 2012
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    I'm not sure where you were or who you were talking to back in those days, but he was far from unsung :cautious:
     
  5. timh19

    timh19 Member+

    Jul 26, 2011
    By the way, what's going on with Frimpong ? He will be 22 in like 3 months. That's an age where he needs to bring his game to the next level.
    What are Wenger's plans for the Dench boy ?
     
  6. gunner7

    gunner7 Member+

    Jul 27, 2008
    Sunshine California
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    Arsenal FC
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    He makes pretty funny videos and picture on instagram.....i don't think he is going to make it footballing-wise at Arsenal. Combination of not talent enough and not focus enough; his rap sucks too...
     
  7. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
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    Arsenal FC
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    Tanzania
    Why would you say he doesn't focus? because of his off the field activities that he undertook when he was injured (what else can you do). I agree he doesn't have too much talent though.
     
  8. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
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    on the other hand, whether you or i agree with it or not, prince's position has been, for quite awhile now, that it (the signing of ozil or another creative midfielder) is not a strengthening of a position where arsenal is already strong. even before the window opened and when others have clamored for other positions to be strengthen (including myself and, say, boondock wanting a traditional defensive midfielder which, with wenger, was never going to happen), his point was always that our biggest positional need was a creative midfielder. which makes the opinion that, while a great signing, the ozil signing was unnecessary (in comparison to other positions) completely wrong (in his opinion). personally, i think an alternate striker was a necessity that was not met but i cannot disagree with prince's opinion on the need for a creative midfielder considering that cazorla is the only one of our midfielder that really truly qualifies as a creative midfielder.
     
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  9. antifan

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    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
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    If you can't enjoy signing Ozil, draw a warm bath and grab a straight razor...


    so you can shave...
     
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  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    From Wiki

    Arsenal's clear issue was failure to score the goals to win key games.

    The defence was 2nd best in the league.

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    Anyone who thinks Arsenal don't need a player like Ozil is deluding themselves.

    Although most of these idiots would also claim Fabregas would be a great signing.
     
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  11. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    #1911 lamb, Sep 9, 2013
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    i even mentioned the very same as daprince during the window. (in fact, i think i might have mentioned it first and we had this exact conversation around page 44 of the "can't we all just get along" thread. of course, this was prior to podolski's injury, days after vermaelen's injury, when it was uncertain how long he'd be out, and before miguel was loaned out....and mentioned again on page 15 of the "preseason thread"...and on page 41 of the "el indecido me molesta,..." thread)

    there are 2 aspects though.....quality and depth. in terms of quality, almost ANY position can be upgraded. in terms of depth, i think it's fair to say cam did have slightly more alternatives than a couple of other positions. obviously signing ozil is a great upgrade there though in terms of both quality AND depth.
     
  12. thebigman

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    May 25, 2006
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    England
    Your vagina
     
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  13. sing_gooner

    sing_gooner New Member

    Feb 23, 2004
    Singapore
    Ozil's addition is going to bring more influence than what people think. he can
    be a great leader and someone to learn from during training. He is going to
    draw lots of attention from opposition, giving more free space to the others.
    Imagine Wilshere, Ramsey and Cazola all being given 25% less attentions...
     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    Don't go changing :D
     
  15. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    Arsenal FC
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    #1915 charlie15, Sep 9, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2013
    Here is another perfect example of pundits repeating the same lazy talking points. "Ozil is not exactly what Arsenal needs", "they have needs in defense, in goal " not ball to mention the mythical " defensive midfielder".

    That is even more ridiculous since AFC signed a keeper (Viviano) to challenge Sczc and brought in Flamini as a solid ball winner.
    Even the original question is ludicrous " Is Ozil the answer to all the Arsenal woes" ? Woes? Really...?

    Funny part is that they are all raving about Ozil quality.



    http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/m...senals-woes-jonathan-northcroft-sunday-times/
     
  16. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
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    Arsenal FC
    Every team needs Özil. Even Real Madrid need Özil. It is rare that a player of his quality is available, and when they are you have to snatch them up.

    We may have needs in defense, but that doesn't change the fact that our attack just picked up a world class player (the only world class player in the squad), and arguably the best player in the league.
     
  17. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    That whole line of thinking is stupid.

    Footie is about two things: scoring goals and keeping the other team from scoring. Ozil helps with both. He obviously helps with scoring because his technique and vision helps pick teams apart, and because he can also score himself.

    But he helps defensively too because he helps keep the ball. If the other team have the ball, they can't score.
     
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  18. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    On a different note, our guy Joel Campbell may have a career in theater, if things don't work out in football.

    Fast forward the video below to 5.38, Campbell theatrics are nothing short of disgraceful and embarrassing. The yellow card to Besler (resulting in his automatic suspension for tomorrow's game vs Mexico) is totally unwarranted. Campbell did not cover himself in glory there. Players should be retroactively punished for stuff like that.

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/artic...call-has-matt-besler-suspended-usmnt-sideline
     
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  19. VAComet85

    VAComet85 Member

    Dec 23, 2007
    Tampa Bay, FL
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    Arsenal FC
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    Question to the board. We know the need for a striker is still prominent so out of the big 3 strikers who would, presumably, be available in the winter window, who do you think would fit best with the squad now that we've got Ozil. Suarez, Rooney or Lewandowski?

    Apparently the board has OK'd another big purchase for the winter window so, who ya got?
     
  20. timh19

    timh19 Member+

    Jul 26, 2011
    Lewandowski has made it clear that he only wants Bayern. He doesnt wanna move away from the Bundesliga.
    Liverpool are not selling Suarez to a Premier League rival. Maybe if we offer something crazy like 70-80M but that's not going to happen.
    Man Utd selling Rooney to us :D That will never happen.

    It is absolutely pointless talking about those 3 players. We should concentrate on other targets. My suggestion would be Kevin Volland. The guy is turning into a top class striker and fits into our style of play perfectly.
     
  21. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York

    Needed Ozil badly and a striker. I had a huge argument about this in some thread with people claiming we were strong enough in the creative area *cue my hysterical laughter* with even Jack Wilshere being thrown around as usual *groan*
     
  22. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    That was a huge and pathetic blemish on an otherwise very impressive outing. SMH
     
  23. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England


    Ok so we scored amongst the highest in the division, but we need too score more goals?
     
  24. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    We also allowed among the fewest. The bigger issue: look at the number of draws. Losses are down to defensive deficiencies. Draws are down to not good enough attacking.
     
  25. timh19

    timh19 Member+

    Jul 26, 2011
    We scored the 3rd highest number of goals (72) but that number doesnt tell the whole story. There were a few games where we scored a lot - 7 against Newcastle, 6 against Southampton, 5 against Spurs, 5 and 4 vs Reading, 4vs Wigan and 5 vs West Ham. That's 36 goals in 7 games. In the remaining 31 PL matches, Arsenal scored (the same number) 36 goals which is not great if you are aiming to win the Premier League.
    It shows those 7 matches were far from the norm. They were kind of ''freak'' results and had a lot to do with the poor opposition (excluding the spurs game of course). We struggled for creativity and goals for most of the season.
     
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