do predators actually work???

if a boot makes that much of a difference... he should A) make sure he always has them, B) compesnate for the lack of swerve, or C) shut his dumb yap and not blames the shoes

 

the mechanics of the shot have the most to do with spin, swerve, power, accuracy. Cleats have a little bit to do with it, some cleats like valsports are really slippery and the ball will slip off on a cross or shot even with good mechanics. but the vamps on the preds do not make that big of a difference on a shot or cross. that person is talking BS

 

Yeah -- if predators worked that well.....would Beckham's ball be fetching thousands on eBay????

Although you could argue that in '94 Baggio's PK "would have gone in if he was wearing predators!"

I agree -- the boys got it done without 'em. I have worn predators and copas and many other brands and this is what my opinion is......the predatoras do have the ability to help add a lil' sumptin' sumptin'. But that is about it. They don't help a teremendous lot. After trying the new Nike's I prefer the simple and understated models. I can't wait to get my Baggio's.

 

no

 

outkast where are you planing on getting the baggios cuz i really want them too. on the thread that i started they said that the ones on soccer.com arent the real ones so i dunno where to get them now.

 

Get the Eurosport Exclusive Baggios. They are the only ones available in North America.

 

Right on bro. This is the post that everyone should read! well done and well said.

 

Well the vamps don't do ******** but they are still a very nice boot, I get better grip with them than I did in my Puma King Classics, and the heel counter works and is nice.

 

Those predator vamps doesnt help... I manage to take some killer freekicks with a boot without predator vamps but when i wear back my predator mania, i could kick for nuts

 

I think they do work, I have had a few different types of boots, from synthetic to all leather, and I can't get the same sort of swerve, especially on crossing, as I can with my preds. Have to say I reckno the vamps on the Pred Mania are better than on the Pulse though. It may be psychological but I do honestly think they make a difference. Besides that they are really nice boots to wear and v.comfortable!

 

Beckham could bend the ball as much in bare feet, put it that way. How come the players with the greatest amount of swerve on Earth, probably Carlos and Recoba don't need preds? The different the rubber makes is negligible and is basically a marketing gimmick, this can be seen as very obvious by the lack of optimum positioning of the vamps on the boot. They keep chaning it for fashion other than anything else, this is where the priority is. Preds are pretty good boots but its despite of the gimmicks not because of them.

 

You can either curve the ball or you cant. The vamps dont help. They are just for marketing purposes.

 

comfortable boots? yes. swerving abilities? no. never. placebo effect.

 

Yeah, its funny this thread popped up, because I was thinking along the same lines last night as I was putting some kids through agility training. One kid was flying through the speed ladder in a pair of bulky cross trainers he must have bought at Wal-M***, while a second kid could barely move in a pair of those fancy Nike Shox shoes.

The shoe can't move faster than the foot. Basically, my philosophy is, equipment is there to not hinder your basic ability. It is a real rarity where something makes you better. But there are obvious examples. No one could argue against longer cleats on wet fields, but you run out of examples pretty quickly, once you get past Physics 101.

 

This isn't Freaking 'Slam Dunk Ernest', where is crap before and he gets these good boots and wins the state championship for the clean sweep.

 

my opinion...the vamps look cool ...but besides that they don't help my swerve any

 

If you think about it Adidas do have a good scheme going here, they make you believe they work, so some gullible people will buy them and most of the others are still unsure as to what they think, yet still buy them just to find out, so either way they've kind of got what they want.

 

i find that if you hit the ball correctly, the vamps do help. it wont make you that much better, but if you know how to strike a ball, it can really be of great benefit.

 

I stand corrected My overall point still holds true though, the rubber simply grips the ball slightly ebtter and therefore should add slightly more spin to it. In reality this doesn't happen as the effect is so small and the fins are positioned so badly on the upper. The difference the contact area between boot and ball makes to the spin is very insignificant compared to the angle of contact (where the foot hits the ball) and the velocity. This is why the rubber makes no difference.

 

AHAHAHA, go on monopoly. That's classic. for real though, adidas and nike could feed out whatever kind of crap they want to, and people would take it. They could say that these shoes have these, nylon things that make it easier to beat people, and they would sell 800 million that day.
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