Ongoing Chivas USA Current News (Coaching Changes, Legal Issues etc...) Thread

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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those people are going to look at how Chivas DG is doing and not bat an eye.

    I, for one, can't. I'm like a lot of people, I've been following this for years, since the Mother Ship played the MLS allstars. This franchise has been terrible for the last few years. Everyone who knows anything about anything knows this. The league can handle the PR because they have the facts on their side.

    You live in Texas and you're from Seattle. How did you get to be such an expert on the sociology of LA? How are you more of an expert than the people who live there? Yeah, it's fun to sound off around here, but c'mon.
     
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  2. USFootiefan1980

    LAFC
    United States
    Aug 19, 2005
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OMG, is... is common sense/ rational thinking taking over BS?!? Perish the though... :whistling:
     
  3. itcheyness

    itcheyness Member

    Jul 30, 2012
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can imagine the reaction.

    "What the **** is a Chivas USA?"
     
  4. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While you're probably right that MLS is hoping Vergara will sell the club and go away of his own volition, I doubt that Vergara would have much luck using the tactic you suggest he might, at least not while his team is lousy on the field, lousy in the stands, and--most importantly--being sued for discrimination on the basis of national origin. Against that backdrop, claims about anti-Mexican discrimination would ring pretty hollow among the 106 people in America willing to listen to them in the first place.
     
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  5. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    I believe 99% perecent of Mexicans, on both sides of the border, wouldn't take him, or a PR attempt like that seriously.

    Jose V is what he is.......and it's pretty much understood everywhere.
     
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  6. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't claim to be an expert on LA. I do think I could drum up a whole lot of protests about a whole lot of nothin' and do it really, really easily - here in Texas, in Washington, in LA, just about anywhere, honestly. I've seen it done many, many, many times.
    I could give you a really great example of a Facebook-driven protest providing misinformation to a community and creating a political situation forcing politicians to respond, and possibly change policy, here in Texas right now. Can't do that because my job is more important to me than posts on a soccer website. But it happens everywhere, all of the time. It's not hard to do.

    I'm not predicting Vergara would even do something like this - just a hypothetical I came up with to make the point that MLS does not hold all of the cards. It was response to speculation the league will just run him out and "sell the team to Sacramento" - the "hunch" mentioned earlier.
     
  7. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But... Again... MLS just points to De La Hoya and Brener as proof of Mexican-American ownership in the league, the various discrimination lawsuits, and the general incompetence to show why they yanked the forced him to sell.
     
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  8. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    by your logic Chivas USA can point to the non mexican/Mexican-American players and say "look we don't discriminate we have american citizens and foreigners of different races and ethnicity's on our team."
     
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  9. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is a difference between forcing someone out because the are incompetent and forcing someone out because of their ethnicity...
     
  10. USFootiefan1980

    LAFC
    United States
    Aug 19, 2005
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, but Liga MX hasn't been able to get rid of him either, so I think that's pretty telling...
     
  11. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has Liga MX been trying to get rid of him? I seem to remember them creating a new rule to stop Slim from buying him out.
     
  12. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    They haven't tried to get rid of him at all; they created a rule to "prevent" multi-ownership, Guadalajara was never for sell nor did he make an offer to buy Guadalajara.
    no there isn't, especially not by your examples.
     
  13. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In terms of lawsuits it is.
     
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  14. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia

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  15. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The announcement amounted to nothing more than Vergara saying "I know I have made mistakes with Chivas (not Chivas USA) and I will do better."
     
  16. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I'm guessing it was a lot of attention grabbing nothing?
     
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  17. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope. He just held a press conference to say he plans to "do better" with Chivas. Never even mentioned CUSA.

    Eric Gómez ‏@goaleric12m
    Vergara's message is basically that he's going to "do better" and help team "achieve better results."
     
  18. Airblair

    Airblair Member

    Dec 8, 1999
    Redwood City
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes it was, sorry for the false alarm, I've deleted my post. I've also vowed never to try to post on an iPad.
     
  19. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And people scoffed at my hypothetical that Vergara would hold a press conference stirring up trouble if the MLS actually ran him out.
     
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  20. dashiel

    dashiel Member+

    Jul 15, 2000
    orange county
    I’m not sure they scoffed at the idea of Vergara holding a press conference, more that most people simply wouldn’t care. Vergara has burned so many bridges here in Los Angeles even the most ardent Chivas USA supporters are done with him. I’m sure he’d whip up a few individuals on the look out for discriminatory practices, but it would lose steam faster than Chivas’ attendance this year.
     
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  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I literally laughed out loud at this post. I mean, wow, with leaping ability like that, you're the Bob Beamon of the internet.

    And HOLDING a press conference is one thing. Having that press conference achieve what you projected is another.
     
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  22. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, OK. I get the point. Was only a hypothetical.
    Still think I could pull it off, but you know, you guys are less cynical than me.
     
  23. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Me too! A bit of the water I had just sipped dribbled on my tie.
     
  24. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cross Posting from the 9/5 daily news thread, so this can be discussed here which may be more appropriate anyway


    USC Takes over Control of Los Angeles Coliseum...Eyes 22k Stadium for MLS Team
    ESPN LA
    Could this be a new home for Chivas? 22k seems to small for the Galaxy.
     
  25. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Some news that may be relevant...


    USC to operate, restore Coliseum

    LOS ANGELES -- After years of public and private negotiations, USC finally has control over the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum for the next century...

    The university also takes over control of the Sports Arena and has already looked into tearing down the 54-year-old facility and developing a 22,000-seat soccer stadium that could house a Major League Soccer team.
     

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