Best 11 USMNT of All Time

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by MarioKempes, Aug 30, 2013.

  1. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1 MarioKempes, Aug 30, 2013
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2013
    If you could pick a starting 11 from the very best USMNT players of all time, who would you pick? Given that there are only 11 choices, this necessarily means that some very talented players will be left off. In my case Ramos, Harkes, Cherundolo, Perez, Lalas, Bocanegra, Gonsavles, Patenaude, Bradley, Clavijo, Moore, Keller, Stewart, Wegerle, Howard, Cobi Jones, Meola all had to be left off.

    Nevertheless, with the following players all in their prime, this roster is a WC semi-finalist roster. What do you think?

    Friedel

    Sanneh Pope Balboa Caliguri


    Reyna Dooley

    Donovan Dempsey


    Wynalda McBride


    Some eyebrows may be raised with the inclusion of Tony Sanneh at right back instead of Cherundolo, but quite simply the best US team of all time was probably the 2002 team, and the best US player of that tournament was Tony Sanneh.
     
  2. TheyCallMeBruce

    TheyCallMeBruce Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    LS McBride/Altidore
    RS Wynalda/Moore
    LM Dempsey/Jones
    RM Donovan/Stewart
    LCM Harkes/Bradley
    RCM Reyna/Ramos
    LB Bocanegra/Caliguiri
    LCB Pope/Lalas
    RCB Balboa/Dooley
    RB Cherundolo/Sanneh
    GK Freidel/Howard/Keller
     
  3. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. bmo180

    bmo180 Member+

    Jan 25, 2012
    we had CMs better than Bradley?
     
  6. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Yep, for where Bradley is now. Ramos, in his prime. One could make a reasonable argument for Hugo Perez as well.

    Bradley will likely surpass both of them, or anyone else, when all is said and done however.
     
  7. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Between the OP and this list, I don't have much to add. I would probably switch Boca and Caliguiri and Sanneh/Cheruundolo between first and second teams. Also, Dooley was a better player than Balboa, but didn't he play more midfield (DM) for the USMNT than CB?
     
  8. TheyCallMeBruce

    TheyCallMeBruce Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Dooley's most common USMNT positions don't really exist anymore, but are closer to CB than the CM positions that are generally in use. I wanted him on the roster, regardless.
     
  9. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Understood. He needs to be included on the list. Also, I forgot to mention that I would only have Freidal and Keller. From a USMNT team perspective, Keller was better (especially in qualification games)...Both Howard and Keller were average in WC games...
     
  10. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll go again in this one like I did in the other:

    Team 1:

    --------------Friedel-------------
    Cherundolo--Pope--Dooley--Caliguiri
    ----------Reyna---Gonsalves----
    Ramos---------------------Dempsey
    ---------Donovan--McBride---------

    Team 2:
    ---------------Keller---------------
    Hejduk---Lalas---Balboa--Bocanegra
    ----------Bradley--Harkes---------
    Stewart------------------------Perez
    --------Wynalda--Altidore---------

    Team 3:

    --------------Howard------------
    Sanneh----Onyewu-------Agoos
    -------------Mastroeni------------
    ----------J. Jones---O'Brien---------
    C. Jones------------------Beasley
    ---------Murray--Max Moore-------

    Just missed:
    GK: Meola
    D: Berhalter
    M: Armas
    F: Mathis

    Bradley will supplant Gonsalves before he is done.
     
  11. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Friedel, Cherundolo, Pope, Lalas, Hejduk, Bradley, Reyna, Harkes, Donovan, Dempsey, McBride
     
  12. copaantl98

    copaantl98 Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    -Friedel
    -Cherundolo-Pope- Dooley
    -Stewart-O'Brien-Ramos-Harkes-Dempsey
    -Donovan-Wynalda
     
  13. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    Dooley was an awfully good player, and similar in style to Bradley, but he only joined the national team in his 30s.

    Ramos was a highly skilled midfielder and a good passer, but he didn't defend well, and his positional sense was surprisingly poor. He tended to drift around the field and sometimes disappear from games. Once he got onto a good Spanish 2nd division team, he was in over his head and quickly fell out of favor.

    Perez was also highly skilled and creative but slowwww. He and Ramos were very useful to our national team because our general skill level was poor, but there's a pronounced tendency to over-rate them on these boards.
     
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  14. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Well, there is also a tendency to over-rate Mike a bit here. Guy is good, for sure, and has a somewhat higher ceiling, considering he's only 26 and a midfielder (I'd argue they keep growing until the age of 28-29). But he makes defensive mistakes, disappears from games at times, and sometimes gets too over-eager, producing an unnecessary turnover. Also, you seldom see something spectacular from him --like that cannon versus Russia (when you see it, it's usually with the NT).

    There's a reason why he's not a lock starter for Roma. He's been great for the NT of late, though.
     
  15. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think a few people look back on some of the older players far too fondly.
     
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  16. Bonus_Game

    Bonus_Game Member

    Sep 30, 2007
    San Francisco
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keller
    Dolo Pope Lalas Boca
    Landon Reyna Perez Dempsey
    Wynalda McBride

    Bradley will probably replace Perez eventually, and Jozy may replace McBride
     
  17. Bonus_Game

    Bonus_Game Member

    Sep 30, 2007
    San Francisco
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah that's because they are completely stacked at CM. Strootman would start for every team in Serie A except Juve, De Rossi is a Roma legend, and Rudi Garcia loves Pjanic. IMO he should start over De Rossi (not a Roma fan but I do watch a lot of serie A), especially if you compare the performance of both last season.

    Not a knock on Bradley I think, he's just the unfortunate odd man out due to circumstance more than anything.
     
  18. PremierUSA

    PremierUSA Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    For me, Reyna and Donovan are the only two locks.
     
  19. PremierUSA

    PremierUSA Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Yea, if only we had today's attackers with yesteryear's back line.
     
  20. klins

    klins Member

    Jun 20, 1999
    stafford , tx, usa
    i've only been following the USMT since 2002, so here is my best 11:

    -----------------------------------------Friedel
    --------Cherundolo-----------Pope---------------Bocanegra-----------------Hejduk
    --------Donovan-------------Bradley------------O'brien--------------------Dempsey
    --------------------------------McBride-----------Altidore
     
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  21. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    Whats the criteria for this? does the player have to be playing with the US for at least half a decade because if we are going with straight talent Clint Mathis and John O' Brien were easily top 5 talented US players but did not have the USMNT careers they should have. The goal the 2 linked up for vs South korea is what you would see from Zidane passing to Brazilian Ronaldo at Real Madrid.
     
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  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    A few WC goals and seasons of consistent scoring in the PL will do that.
     
  23. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    That is a fantastic team for the past decade.
     
  24. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Tab Ramos was good but i don't remember him being a world beater
     
  25. manoa

    manoa Member

    Aug 16, 2005
    there are palm trees
    Thank you. I was hoping someone would make the 'peak' vs. 'career' value point. Because I understood the OPs premise (based on his inclusion of Sanneh, who indeed, during KorPan, was a left-footed Maldini) that this is a mythical team, at their individual peaks, to win a game TODAY. Not an all-time contributors Best XI. Clint Mathis' career may have been over in an eyeblink, but at his peak he was more dangerous with the ball than only a handful of US players. Before the famous goal in Daegu, cited above, if he doesn't score that FK in the 86th minute @Honduras in March of '01...or doesn't find Wolff with the long pass vs. El Tri in Columbus...the man saved our bacon more than once.
     

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