MLS 2013 Week 27 Continuous PBP Thread [Multiple R]

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by newtex, Aug 30, 2013.

  1. bmo180

    bmo180 Member+

    Jan 25, 2012
    Will Johnson is probably an MVP candidate this year...
     
  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Agree to disagree, because this isn't what happened.
     
  3. sedlie

    sedlie Member+

    Apr 5, 2011
    LOL. Do you think Zemanski hit the RSL player's leg with his cleats?
     
  4. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Grant Wahl says some weird stuff sometimes:

    Grant Wahl ‏@GrantWahl2h
    Both RSL & PDX will make the playoffs. Class of the league predominantly in the west again.

    SS Race
    1) West - RSL
    2) East - Montreal
    3) West - Los Angeles
    4) East - New York
    5) East - Kansas City
    6) West - Colorado
    7) West - Portland
    8) East - Philadelphia

    Not sure what his justification for that one is.
     
  5. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It's studs up into his foot, not his leg (mistake in earlier post). Regardless, in that sort of challenge, it doesn't matter. There was no contact that caused Zemanski's leg to rise - watch the replay again, it starts going up before he gets to the ball.

    Studs showing, potentially very dangerous challenge, easy red card to give out.
     
  6. bmo180

    bmo180 Member+

    Jan 25, 2012
    At full strength I think Portland is a top 5 team, definitely better than New York
     
  7. GunningforMLS1993

    Aug 28, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    I know :D Forgot to add an icon.
     
  8. sedlie

    sedlie Member+

    Apr 5, 2011
    Here ya go.

    Foot down.
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    Foot down.
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    Foot comes up as they are both making contact. Cleats still pointed down. Zemanski is attempting to play the ball to his right. RSL player is attempting to play ball forward.
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    RSL player's foot (who is following through on his forward kick) gets underneath Zemanski's foot as the ball pops out to Zemanski's right. (If you download the previous image and this image and toggle back and forth between the two, you will see Zemanski's foot move because the RSL player's foot is now kicking it up.)
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    Foot on top of cleat.
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    Foot still on top of cleat.
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    Foot still on top of cleat. You stated in post #201 that it "was a conscious decision on Zemanski's part to make firm contact with his opponent's leg." You can obviously see in this sequence that is was far from firm as Zemanski allows both his knee and hip to flex. If he had kept a straight leg the whole time and not attempted to make no contact, his forward momentum would have kept his leg down, but instead because he lets his knee and hip flex, his cleat is able to stay in contact with the RSL player's foot and be pulled upward as he goes in the opposite direction.
    [​IMG]
     
  9. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And that's a red card. He went in, and his cleats were exposed to the player while he made firm and continuing contact with that players leg/foot. To top it off, he actually DOVE INTO THE TACKLE. You don't have to actually break a guys leg or the bones in his foot to get a red. Diving into a tackle in this manner was reckless. And if you want guys to stop making these type of tackles, you have to punish them ... whether or not the player on the receiving end is maimed.
     
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  10. Wobchase

    Wobchase Member

    Jul 28, 2013
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Sedlie, the reason why cleats up contact is called a red card is because you're taking a large amount of force, and concentrating it on a small area, so it can cause serious injury and pain.

    I don't care about your argument with that other guy, that is what happened here. The cleats met the player who was running towards him, this is extremely dangerous and could've easily broken his leg. Even if they were two bodies only running 10mph, that's both of them so it's 20mph and the mass of the players focused on the tip of a few cleats.

    It's a red card, it should always be a red card if we want players to stay healthy and keep playing the game. Players who aren't good and just go into tackles for the hell of it should learn to play the game, end of.
     
  11. sedlie

    sedlie Member+

    Apr 5, 2011
    Haha, your physics is a bit goofy, but I know what you're saying.
     
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  12. standard

    standard Member

    Aug 10, 2009
    central Illinois
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rimando is usually a Goalkeeping god, i think this was probably his worst game of the season. If he was his normal self this game Portland wouldnt have scored.


    Also Robbie Findley is awful. The sad thing is that he makes almost as much as Olmes Garcia, Sandoval, and Plata make combined.
     
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  13. Wobchase

    Wobchase Member

    Jul 28, 2013
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Well physics is goofy, objects attracted to eachother it don't make no sense!
     
  14. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    between incompetence of 2012 TFC FO and Joao Plata basically engineering his own loan away from Toronto w/ LDU Quito (essentially walking away from the team), plenty of blame to go around why Plata is no longer playing for TFC
     
  15. RoyalNonesuch

    RoyalNonesuch Member+

    May 10, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hope Valeri isn't hurt badly and can get back into form soon, he's a great player. RSL has a strange way of losing their possession after they get a lead. It's scary some times.

    Rimando might take some heat, but that first goal was like 3 on 7 - and Nagbe floated free, somehow. Have to look at Beckerman for that...or Gil/Beltran for getting caught way out of the play on the right side.
     
  16. MRschizoid21

    MRschizoid21 Member

    Nov 5, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    SS Race
    1) West - RSL
    2) East - Montreal
    3) West - Los Angeles
    4) East - New York
    5) East - Kansas City
    6) West - Colorado
    7) West - Portland
    8) East - Philadelphia

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    more accurately going by PPG:
    1. Salt Lake
    2. Montreal
    3. Seattle
    4. Los Angeles
    5. New York
    6. Kansas City
    7. Colorado
    8. Portland
     
  17. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    CORRECTED:

    more accurately going by PPG:
    1. Salt Lake
    2. Montreal
    3. Seattle
    4. Los Angeles
    5. New York
    6. Kansas City
    7. Colorado
    8. Houston
    9. Portland
     
  18. Golazo

    Golazo Member+

    Apr 15, 1999
    Decatur, GA USA
    Man, we've seen this movie before: The rest of the league beats the snot out of each other for months while Bruce and his studs lollygag along.... until September and the playoffs.

    I, for one, welcome our Galaxy Overlords, (********ing bastards)
     
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  19. phoenixhazard

    phoenixhazard Member+

    Oct 26, 2010
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    can't agree with your bastards comment but I love the reference ;)
     
  20. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    [​IMG]
     
  21. phoenixhazard

    phoenixhazard Member+

    Oct 26, 2010
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you are forgetting the 2 supporter's shields though which LAG definitely didn't lollygag. I guess you are referring to last season though?
     
  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weather delay in Columbus. They've cleared out the stadium.. I wager that even though it is a sellout, actual attendance will be low...
     
  23. phoenixhazard

    phoenixhazard Member+

    Oct 26, 2010
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    could be postponed?
     
  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doesn't sound like it from what the Seattle announcers are saying. Sounds like a fast moving lightning storm.
     
  25. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    Seattle invented delaying games by lightning.
     
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