Pre-match: Super Cup: FC Bayern vs. Chelsea

Discussion in 'Bayern Munich' started by P to the Wee, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. DerChef

    DerChef Member+

    Oct 5, 2011
    United Kingdom
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Lahm is just a liability in midfield, Mandzu is playing the role of the invisible man, Ribery's award has gone to his head, and Müller is scuttling around like an arachnid on speed. The only positives out there are Robben, Kroos and Boateng.
     
  2. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ribery way to selfish so far. Kroos has been excellent. I'd like to see Mueller out wide, Robben as false 9 and Goetze in midfield for the second half.
     
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  3. GarmischaBua

    GarmischaBua Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Team looks completely demotivated and undisciplined.

    Sell Gustavo -> Scwein, Martinez, Thiago pick up injuries -> Play Lahm/Kroos/Kirchoff alone as DM in front of our wide open, extremely high line

    Fullbacks are isolated because of how vulnerable we are to counters - they are encouraged to play as wing backs and then get burned on the turn every time.

    Team starts to look for outlets when the possession style doesn't help, and it's inevitably Ribery. It looks a bit one trick.

    So essentially we are witnessing 1) a deficiency of defensive cover in the midfield/on the counter 2) an over-dependence on Franck!! Does anyone else not see the irony that these are the exact issues we struggled to reverse during LvG and early Heynckes era??

    The real issue is that Pep's decisions do not seem to gel with the strengths of the team at the moment, and it shows in that the players do not look energized by his tactics, and at least from my perspective there seems to be a somewhat skeptical air to their play and demeanor. I'm even thinking about some of the interviews players gave.

    I understand the need for Pep to create flexibility and fluidity in the squad so as to have some sort of tactical diversity, but in the same vein, if it's not broken, don't fix it.
     
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  4. Matakos

    Matakos Member+

    May 18, 2009
    Macedonia, Greece
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Offensively we are good but every chelsea counter smells goal
     
  5. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    None of your busines
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  6. SLC25

    SLC25 Member

    Jun 19, 2004
    Jordan
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dante and Alaba are just comical :thumbsdown: Shurrle cutting Alaba by sheer speed and Dante caught ball watching
     
  7. albert_mk87

    albert_mk87 Member+

    Aug 27, 2008
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    we are creating almost nothing and its too easy to counter on us(like Barca in the CL last year)
     
  8. Fernando_Bayern_BR

    May 5, 2010
    Belo Horizonte - Bra
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I just took off my Martinez shirt and put on my Lucky Bayern Shirt ...

    Guess which player ...

    Hint: there are two "3's" on it ... Something tell me we'll turn things around ...
     
  9. Matakos

    Matakos Member+

    May 18, 2009
    Macedonia, Greece
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I blame Boateng for Chelsea's goal since he didn't foul Oscar
     
  10. ToBlockIdiots

    ToBlockIdiots Member+

    Feb 18, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    There are times when we've moved quite well but the thing is we're also to pass the ball into the net. So when their defense gets disorganized, we give them to shape back up.

    And when we do try to make the final pass, it's off the mark. And when we do try to shoot, our finishing has been horrible as usual.

    And honestly, I would think of taking Rafinha off for Gotze and moving Lahm to RB. Because they're leading, Chelsea's going to be waiting for the counter anyway and they won't be building play through the middle, so I'd rather put Lahm back where he is most effective. As for Rafinha, consider that when Chelsea scored, Robben was the deepest on the right side of the pitch. Inexcusable. I do not know whether it's lack or effort, concentration, or positioning, but your RB trailing your RW on defense shouldn't be happening.

    I can't see how Pep can be happy with the performance so far.

    Chelsea's defense has been stellar as expected. I think Schurrle has been their most effective attacker.
     
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  11. Nermin Kolašinac

    Jun 5, 2013
    Lahmfan's crib
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
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  12. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Calm down guys. Its the first half, we are playing without 3 key midfield players due to injury.
     
  13. Fernando_Bayern_BR

    May 5, 2010
    Belo Horizonte - Bra
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Just wait for Sir Manchester !! He'll explain how you are dead wrong and say you only fear changes !
     
  14. AllReD

    AllReD Member+

    Oct 26, 2005
    @ The Cocaine and Herbal Viagra Expo
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Forum Announcement

    As a result of the numerous personnel and tactical changes I have decided to retire one of our favorite pics:

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    You will be missed. :cry:
     
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  15. ToBlockIdiots

    ToBlockIdiots Member+

    Feb 18, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I was thinking of this too. Sometimes it's just better to make the tactical foul and get your yellow card instead of standing off too much. Contento did the same against Freiburg last game. Just stop the play instead of risking a 3 on 3 with our defense disorganized
     
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  16. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The lack of defensive cover from Lahm has forced Kroos to stay really deep, which is hurting our creativity in the middle because Mueller is playing like a SS. Lahm has been playing way higher up the pitch than Schweini does. Its throwing off the balance. Goetze needs to come into midfield and Mueller needs to either go up top or to the wing because Mandzukic is just horrible today.
     
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  17. humin12

    humin12 Member+

    Sep 20, 2008
    Ferguson, Missouri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When in doubt, blame Boateng.
     
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  18. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    None of your busines
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    You should not use drugs before watching next time like your avatar, it doesn't help when it sounds like you are talking out of your ass.
     
  19. Matakos

    Matakos Member+

    May 18, 2009
    Macedonia, Greece
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    It's f#cking basic. I was screaming foul when that Chelsea attack started. Things would have been much different
     
  20. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    But... Why? You monster! :(
     
  21. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    We can still use it when our opponents score on a counter. :ninja:
     
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  22. ToBlockIdiots

    ToBlockIdiots Member+

    Feb 18, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
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  23. Billy South Philly

    Jan 28, 2013
    Newtown Square, PA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And we all get to participate in a lively discourse on how stupid we are ;)
     
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  24. Dhajj

    Dhajj Member+

    Nov 25, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well the early goal is the last god damn thing we needed..

    A loss here will hurt us more then it will chelsea. This could be a long season :p

    Watch us lose the club World Cup aswell :p
     
  25. Bayern4Life

    Bayern4Life Member+

    Aug 22, 2004
    • Torres of all people to perfectly first time it like that? what a fluke lol
     
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