Rapinoe reportedly to play for Lyon

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  1. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    Which is why she owns a house in Portland....
     
  2. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    it's the $$$.

    i think.

    the economics of women's soccer is such that any player not making extra bucks from playing in the u.s.a. (for ex. solo, abby, alex) is going to grab any reasonable offer to play overseas rather than sit on their hands during the nwsl off season.
    these players lose their income making playing skills before they're 38-40. the one thing they ALL know and live by is the theme of making every dollar now while their knees and ankles are not shot.

    there'd be more of this if more overseas teams had $$ and spots available. right now, even with nwsl's paltry salaries, no worries.
     
  3. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
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    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    Ok, now that everyone have expressed their opinion on this, can we discuss the logistics concerning the move? Namely,

    Who has the rights to Rapinoe? Seattle or Lyon?
    If it is Seattle, does that mean this is a loan to Lyon and Seattle will be compensated?
    I guess my main concern is that I find it hard to believe that Seattle, after signing a coach to a 4-year extension, would allow it self to be screwed for the second year in a row with this allocation stuff.

    I must say the coming months should be fun as I'm hoping the rules concerning allocation is further ironed out.
     
  4. RUfan

    RUfan Member

    Dec 11, 2004
    NJ
    Club:
    Sky Blue FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #429 RUfan, Aug 25, 2013
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2013
    Going back through this thread:
    From that press release:
    "...The team also officially announced the signing of Megan Rapinoe from Lyon...."


    And earlier:

    [/URL]http://www.une-deux.net/OL-Rapinoe-part-mais-revient_a2224.html which got it right from the horse's mouth (last night's itw on OLTV) pinoe has signed for next season at OL.
    she'll be in Seattle on the 14th and play her first match on the 29th.
    guignol, Jun 11, 2013


    Was she actually this year on loan from Lyon?
    Or was the contract with Seattle for only this past season?
    Even if it had an option for second year, does she have to actually sign it for it to be effective?
     
  5. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    all very good questions.

    i'm not saying my answers are perfectly correct but:

    1) as you can see in the OP of this thread she signed with OL before being allocated to seattle.

    2) if i understand allocation correctly she is not under contract to seattle at all but to the USSF.

    so she was under contract with lyon from december until the end of their season, at which time she was free to go play the remainder of the reign's season. now she's resigned with OL and though she was excused from camp in the alps to take a breather she should be back in france in time for lyon's first match on sept. 1. if she goes back to the NMSL it will be under the same circumstances, startting in june.
     
  6. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rapinoe's going to be with the NT for their game on the 3rd.
     
    guignol repped this.
  7. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    thx for the info. she'll likely have prior permission for that and not get fined as such. but as this match is not being held during an official NT break lyon is not technically required to release her.
     
  8. Mi Las

    Mi Las New Member

    Mar 16, 2013
    She's hosting a soccer camp in California September 14 and 15 according to her Facebook page.
     
  9. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    her fb page? https://www.facebook.com/mPinoe ?

    i don't see it. and i doubt the club would let her do that without a fuss, as that's after the juvisy match and would hamper her preparation for PSG.
     
  10. Mi Las

    Mi Las New Member

    Mar 16, 2013
    Sorry, forgot to post the link https://www.facebook.com/RapinoeSoccerCamp
    Could have swore I read a few quotes from Lair stating they expected her back toward the end of September. If I can dig them out, I'll post them.
     
  11. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    i found that page myself, but didn't see where it says megan will personally be there. a camp can be called RSC without her being there, just like joe weider didn't come over to your house if you sent in the coupon in the back of the comic book.

    anyway, this from https://www.facebook.com/ReignFC answers some of our questions here:

    Below are a few excerpts from an interview with Reign FC Owner Bill Predmore regarding Megan Rapinoe’s return to Lyon:


    WHY DID REIGN FC AGREE TO LET RAPINOE GO TO LYON?

    The structure of the league allocation process meant that Megan had no further contractual obligation to Reign FC, so from a legal perspective Megan didn’t need our permission to return to Lyon for their upcoming season. Reign FC controls Megan’s rights in the NWSL (meaning she doesn’t have the option to play for a different NWSL club unless we first agree to a trade), but we do not control her rights outside the NWSL. For obvious reasons we would have preferred she play in Lyon only until the beginning of March (the start of our pre-season camp), but we were not in a position to make that happen.


    DID THE CLUB ASK MEGAN TO STAY IN SEATTLE?

    Laura and I spoke with Megan on multiple occasions to discuss her motivations for playing in Lyon. It was clear she had spent a lot of time considering her choices and she had very clear, rational and completely understandable reasons for wanting to return to Lyon. We certainly asked her to stay, but understand and support her decision to return to Lyon.


    i certainly hope she will be back asap but ultimately seeing will be believing.
     
  12. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
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    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence

    Thanks for showing me this. From the answers, it seems their hands were tied to do anything which is unfortunate but hopefully this allocation stuff will be worked out better in the offseason.

    Now its time to start speculating on who they are targeting both in NWSL and overseas.
     
  13. holden

    holden Member+

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    Oct 20, 2009
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    Dundee FC
    And also because Rachael Rapinoe will probably be there... since the camp is run by both of the Rapinoe twins.
     
  14. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
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    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    Well according to this tweet from the official camp twitter acct, it kinda implies they will both be there.

    "Looking forward to our summer camps with @RRapinoe and @mPinoe!! Email rapinoesc@gmail.com for all info"
     
  15. Mi Las

    Mi Las New Member

    Mar 16, 2013
    "Sept 14 in Santa Rosa, CA @ Montgomery High School. Training sessions are as follows: U8-U13 9am-12pm,
    U14-U18 1pm-4pm. Both training sessions will end with a 30 minute Q&A, for a chance to get to know Megan Rapinoe on a personal level. You can email all Santa Rosa RSC questions to: rapinoesc@gmail.com. "

    I guess her sister can host the Q&A session about Megan. :unsure: Anything is possible:thumbsup:
     
  16. CANAmerican

    CANAmerican Member

    Aug 10, 2011
    Toronto
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you want to hear Laura Harvey's thoughts on Rapinoe going to Lyon in the off-season:
    It starts about 29:00 min in:
    http://soundcloud.com/wfpod/donkey-of-the-day

    She thinks it will benefit the club long-term and said it would be difficult for any player to turn it down.

    It is a great interview overall; she also gives her thoughts on the NWSL season, the award winners, etc. (41 minutes in). I recommend a listen.
     
  17. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    the first word from OL on just when pinoe will be back: « Elle reviendra plus tôt que prévu parce que j'ai besoin d'elle plus tôt. Je l'ai eue au téléphone. Elle peut être présente pour le match face au PSG. »

    intimating she was indeed only expected back at the end of September (in the same article lair explains the whole team started preparation later this year because they haven't had a real break in 3 years) but will be back earlier because he needs her: he talked to her on the phone and she "may" be back for PSG.
     
  18. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    isn't that just coach speak?

    he has more than enough ammunition - pinoe, from reports you guys gave, seemed to be little more than window dressing last season.
     
  19. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Why isnt this thread called "Rapinoe reportedly to sit on the bench for Lyon"? Again, I dont see the attraction. Other than having a world class player sitting about in case Abily gets injured, what is Rapinoe doing there? Is there some allure to being a bench player on a CL league contender? At least she's learning a new language.
     
  20. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    she didn't sit the bench as much as you think once she got acclimated. and now abily is out for 6 weeks.

    next question?
     
  21. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Who else is out? Le Sommer? So Rapinoe is in til Le Sommer returns? Maybe the two of them will do the 45 minute dance like last year? It shouldnt take Abily getting injured for Rapinoe to play. It's the same old argument. Rapinoe is too good to be sitting on the bench sticking pins in the Abily voodoo doll. If she isnt good enough to start on Lyon she doesnt need to be there.
     
  22. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    except they're paying her good window dressing $$, which few players can afford to pass up.

    mystery to me. she can start for the uswnt, but she can't even see the pitch some games for lyon.

    maybe she's just not showing much in practice.

    my theory - coach sees everything i don't. so he has the right to make the call.
     
  23. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Well I agree the money is a factor...Id rather have her just say that...the nonsense about winning CL...she is only winning CL if she is playing and contributing.

    As to whether or not she's better than the players she is behind, I dont see that as a factor either. The argument isnt whether she deserves to start...that's completely opinion with any player. The argument is it's year two. They may have been a bit surprised last season with what she can and cant do...how she fits or doesnt. Not this year. They knew exactly what they were getting and Rapinoe knew exactly what she was getting into. I still read this as Trophy Wife. And the trophy wife thing bothers me when u look at from the Seattle POV.
     
  24. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    lyon hasthree competitions to win, so they have to double up at every position.
     
  25. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    and here's a little video of her welcome back:

     

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