2013 Playoff & Supporters Shield Race/Discussion About Other Teams [R]

Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by burning247, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. 85FinMiles

    85FinMiles Member

    Nov 27, 2006
    Below 20
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I can see no acceptable excuse for anything otherwise. It's been fun but we can no longer reward failure.
     
  2. Sportsfan783

    Sportsfan783 Member

    FC Dallas
    Oct 8, 2010
    Midland, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Speaking of that. Does anyone know the latest point in a season that a team has gone from first place overall to missing the playoffs?
     
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  3. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    That sounds like something that henryo would know.
     
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  4. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Roger, will work on it, though it may take some time...

    In the meanwhile, perhaps scaryice may already have something on this too?
     
  5. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #105 henryo, Aug 15, 2013
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2013
    Alright, here you go:

    "The list of teams that has gone from first place overall to missing the playoffs in each season."

    Season Team(s) Last Point as Leaders Eventual Records Remarks
    1996-2000 N/A N/A N/A N/A
    2001 Tampa Bay Game 3: 2-0-1 04-02-21 (12th/12) Won Wooden Spoon!!
    2002 N/A N/A N/A N/A
    2003 Columbus Game 4: 2-1-0 10-08-12 (08th/10) Missed Playoffs as 5th/5 teams in the East.
    2004 Chicago Game 5: 2-2-1 (3rd) 08-09-13 (10th/10) Won Wooden Spoon
    2005 Columbus Game 1: 1-0-0 11-05-16 (10th/12) Missed Playoffs as 6th/6 teams in the East.
    2006 K.C. Game 6: 4-1-1 10-08-14 (11th/12) Missed Playoffs as 5th/6 teams in the East.
    2007 Colorado Game 2: 1-1-0 (3rd) 09-08-13 (10th/13) Missed Playoffs as out of Top-8 Overall.
    2008 Colorado Game 1: 1-0-0 11-05-14 (09th/14) Missed Playoffs as out of Top-8 Overall.
    2009 N/A N/A N/A N/A
    2010 K.C. Game 2: 2-0-0 11-06-13 (09th/16) Missed Playoffs as out of Top-8 Overall.
    2011 Vancouver Game 1: 1-0-0 06-10-18 (18th/18) Won Wooden Spoon!!
    2012 Portland Game 1: 1-0-0 08-10-16 (17th/19) Missed Playoffs as 8th/9 teams in the West.
    2013* RSL Game 21: 11-4-6 TBC (Season IP) Through Aug-12, 2013: Still Overall Leaders.
    2013* Montreal Game 17: 09-4-4 TBC (Season IP) Through Aug-12, 2013: 4th/10 in the East, 7th/19 Overall.
    2013* Dallas Game 13: 08-3-2 TBC (Season IP) Through Aug-12, 2013: 7th/9 in the West, 12th/19 Overall.


    Notes:

    1. As of now, the present record for "the latest point in a season that a team has gone from first place overall to missing the playoffs" would be Game 6, by K.C. in 2006.

    2. '01 Tampa, '04 Chicago and '11 Vancouver were the only Overall Leaders that have gone from first to last and won the Wooden Spoon!!

    3. In 2013, 3 teams (RSL, Montreal & Dallas) have took turn to lead at various points of the season (where standings were normalized to equal number of games played for each team).

    4. Through Aug-12, Dallas are out of playoffs picture. If things stands at the end of the season, Dallas will set a new record for missing out despite leading at Game 13 (more than double of the current record)...

    5. On the other hand, if Montreal are to miss out as well, the record will be extended to Game 17, almost triple of the current record!!
     
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  6. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #106 henryo, Aug 19, 2013
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2013
    Through Aug-19, 2013, after the only game between the SS Winners & Runners-up of 2012 (in which S.J. won 1-0), Dallas are now pushed down to 8th/9 in the West, & 14th/19 Overall.

    They are now in Grave Danger of becoming the FIRST team to lead the SS Race after 10 games, yet miss the playoffs in the end...
     
  7. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm horrible about updating this thread but aren't you glad I am?
     
  8. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    At least the team may get to set a new "League Record" of any sorts this season... :p
     
  9. Sportsfan783

    Sportsfan783 Member

    FC Dallas
    Oct 8, 2010
    Midland, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for digging up all the stats.

    As of this morning FCD are now 8th/9 in the West and 14th/19 overall.
     
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  10. Cowtown Felipe

    Cowtown Felipe Member+

    Mar 12, 2012
    Fort Worth, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I read this today, "Chris Wondolowski's goal in the 55th minute gave the San Jose Earthquakes a 1-0 win over Sporting Kansas City that pulled them even with FC Dallas for seventh place in the Western Conference, just three points out of the playoff tier. "
    Sounds optimistic for SJ that they're only 3 points out of the playoffs. Wait, so are we. And we have a game in hand on them. :thumbsup:
    Oh, but SH is still our coach, Watson is still available for him to substitute in at stupid times, and Seattle is ahead of us and has 2 games in hand on us.
    :(
     
  11. Rex Kramer

    Rex Kramer Thanks Rex

    Aug 1, 2007
    Plano, TX
    The thing is, San Jose has the best home record in the league. If they could perform even half as well on the road they'd be a lock for a playoff spot, if not a high seed.

    While we're on the same number of points, can the same really be said of Dallas?
     
  12. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Finally, a long-awaited 1st win in 11 games, bringing them to (surprisingly) within 6 points of West & SS Leaders RSL, with a game in hand...
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/standings

    The Playoffs and SS Dreams are still alive!! ;)
     
  13. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Just think where we'd be if we didn't do all this dicking around...
     
  14. Cowtown Felipe

    Cowtown Felipe Member+

    Mar 12, 2012
    Fort Worth, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chivas beat NYRB. Maybe FCD deserves more credit than we thought for beating the goats.
     
  15. Cowtown Felipe

    Cowtown Felipe Member+

    Mar 12, 2012
    Fort Worth, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I watched the big Seattle v Portland game. Good game, especially for a 1-0 game. Except for a patch in the second half, there was lots of good ball movement and scoring chances.
    Anyone ever watch non-FCD MLS games and wonder how our games look in comparison?
    Our FO should look at a Chris Seitz trade to Seattle. Gspurning looked awful - flailing at and missing crosses, spills, bad communication with his defense. The worst performance I've ever seen by a GK in a shutout.
    I don't understand why some clubs water their grass fields during halftime. I really don't understand why Seattle watered their fake grass field during halftime.
     
  16. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They do it so the ball will move faster along the field surface - it will skip and slide more than the ball catching and rolling and slowing down .
     
  17. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to jinx it or anything (I write this at the halftime of the Vancouver/Chivas game with Chivas leading 2-0), but with FCD taking the weekend off the best possible results may have occurred with Portland, Colorado, San Jose and now - possibly - Vancouver all losing. San Jose is probably out of it barring an unlikely run, but the other 4 teams seem most likely to be battling for the last 2 spots, so all in all a good weekend so far. (Come on Chivas for another 45!)
     
  18. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well, I kind of jinxed it as Vancouver comes back to tie, but still, they probably fully expected all 3 points at home v. Chihvas so no bad overall
     
  19. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  20. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    We really really REALLY need to win Saturday.
     
  21. oscar_in_fw

    oscar_in_fw Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Kansas City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Should we really REALLY want to win Saturday if making the playoffs means another five (5) years of SH ?
     
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  22. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Can't wish for ill will toward the club, even for the greater good.
     
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  23. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In this league as implausible as it sounds FC Dallas could go on a tear, get hot and win MLS Cup. They almost did it a few years ago. If that happens Hyndman deserves a parade. You could even make a case for how it happens with the additions of Diaz, Eric, Luccin getting healthy, Ferreira showing a spark and maybe the Incident lighting a fire under Cooper. Being a FC Dallas / Burn fan is hard because more likely is the opposite but Lucy is still holding the football and I need to kick it.
     
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  24. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    If the 2005 Galaxy/2010 Rapids can win MLS Cup, anyone can.
     
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  25. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

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