Mourinho talked badly about the players and the club during his leaking, he said more than simply that he himself was leaving the club. Lame excuse how this wouldn't constitute leaking is thus failed. Oh, snap!
He still has two years on his current contract. He'll drag it out until we pay him something for a period long enough that we'll regret it in 3 years time.
You missed the whole point of the post. You're accusing someone of doing something you have 0 proof of, but you turn around and say you can't comment on the exact same thing because... you have 0 proof.
So we now moved away from the Mourinho thing and onto the Raul thing. Okay good. I said I could not comment on the Raul example not because I had zero prove but rather because I do not recall the details surrounding the issue. I said that in a previous post too. I can not recall the details so I can not really comment on it. that is it. You are merely jumping to conclusions again; just as you did with the whole ignoring Mourinho leaks thing. Now, I do however know the details surrounding the Casillas one. He is widely believed to be the locker-room mole that was feeding the media the information. It makes sense. His finance/girlfriend has been talking about intimate details surrounding the locker-room on TV; just as she was talking smack about Ronaldo and the locker-room during the Casillas vs Ronaldo issue. Are you gonna tell me that Casillas is not her source?
What exactly did Iker's girlfriend report that wasn't "common knowledge" by the time she reported it? And how do you explain that the majority of the "leaks" were coming while Iker was injured and not with the team? So that means there are two moles right? At least two. What you're offering isn't "proof"...at what point does reality come into play here?
False. The majority of leaks happened prior to his injury. The locker-room spats, the fights at Valdebebas, the Marca cover etc. That was before his injury..... sorry. As if him being in the gym rather than on the grass at Valdebebas would prevent him from getting information.
The only locker room spat that was leaked before his injury was Oezil. Do Maria and Ronaldo's were after he was injured. And if you're talking about that Marca cover with text messages and the confrontation with Mou, Ramos and Iker after that Barca game then I'm done Lol, which would mean there was at least one other leak no?
You're "done" because he was in the room during the leaked conversation? Something that doesn't prove his innocence but rather puts him at the scene Okay, then I'm "done" with this then. No, it would mean he was facility and could easily get any information he wanted by casually talking to his colleagues. Remember that it leaked that the players suspected one of Mourinho's coaching staff was a spy for the manager and that the players were uneasy talking around him. That happened after his injury.
Last bit, I'm not saying Iker being the mole is ridiculous...he very well could be, what is ridiculous is the allegedly damning "proof" people are using to reach the conclusion
No I haven't moved past the Mourinho thing to the Raul thing. They are all one of the same. Just as you say it's "widely believed" that Iker was the "locker room mole", I say it's just as believable that Mourinho was leaking dressing room stories to the press. You just choose to believe one, and ignore the other. A lot of the stories that were leaked were detrimental to Iker or his supposed clique, how do you explain those? And yes, I'm going to tell you that Iker wasn't her source because, after all, she is a journalist and I'm sure she's well connected to the club. And Iker is much smarter than to tell his fiance something like that knowing full well that people will jump to the same exact conclusion that you did. But let's throw common sense out the window and focus on the selective criteria you've chosen to base your argument on.
I'm starting to think it would have been better if it was actually proven that Iker was the mole, seeing as actual confirmed leakers get silly ass excuses made up for them.
Don't backtrack now, it is obviously not. Leaking information about one self is not the same as leaking information about locker-room disputes. it is simply not. Are you saying that the media were reporting that Mourinho was leaking information? And as for it being detrimental to Casillas, well yes that is what happens when it comes out that that you are the leaker and on top of that benched. HA! Come on, be realistic. He is most likely her source. And a lot of the stuff she is saying was not detrimental to him but rather backing his side. She was merely parroting what he could not say. This is the person he share a bed with every night. Don't tell me that he does not give her information.
"By politics he meant the atmosphere, a section of the fans, part of the club and part of the dressing room" I think it's time for you to change your definition of mole, again. Either that or read up on what he actually told that Italian reporter so you don't constantly claim he was only talking about himself, yet it clearly not being the case.
HA! Implying as if I every changed the definition. I suppose that is what I get sticking to the actual definition. And how exactly is giving a statement on the record to a journalist considered a "mole" or "snitch". That is literally the opposite. A mole or snitch is anonymous..
So now because his leaking came out, it's all good because it becomes "making statements to the press"? Ssyeah, your definition is not all over the place at all. So what exactly is your problem with Iker seeing as he was just making statements to the press regarding the locker room just like Mourinho did? Oh wait, that's right he hasn't actually been proven to be a mole. I guess even my sarcasm turns out to be true :
You seriously can not be this dense. How is my definition all over the place when I say that something told to a reporter on the record does not make you a a mole. FBI's Associate Director Mark Felt secretly informing Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein of The Washington Post about Nixon and Watergate; is considered a mole.
You: 1) Leaking locker room news to the press is leaking, damn you Iker! 2) Leaking locker room news to the press, when not talking about yourself is leaking...damn you Iker! 3) Ok, give me a second. So...leaking locker room news to the press, even when this isn't about yourself, is leaking when your name is Casillas.....yeah....damn you Iker! Be in denial more.
Ronaldo's not the one that jibed at Mourinho. He's keeping his head on the season. You're complaining?
You know, the only reason anyone believes that Iker was the mole is BECAUSE MOURINHO WAS THE ONE TO HINT IT RIGHT? Well, I'm telling you that it's quite as possible that it was Mourinho who was leaking some of the info as well. You just choose to believe what you like to believe. Again, you make assumptions that only suit your argument, but as you will do with what I wrote above, you dismiss any assumption that's made against your argument.