Ongoing Chivas USA Current News (Coaching Changes, Legal Issues etc...) Thread

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  1. Skypilot

    Skypilot Member

    Sep 29, 2007
    Olympia
    The Chivas KKK racist clown show is now making news away from the sports section.. MLS needs to step in and clean house ASAP. This should not be tolerated.
     
  2. MARCH_

    MARCH_ Member

    Aug 16, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're seriously comparing Chivas USA to the KKK? Murder & hate.[​IMG]
     
  3. AmericanKaka

    AmericanKaka Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    What a surprise that this thread ended up with people posting pictures of lynchings.
    Thanks, Chivas! We owe you another one!
     
  4. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    No I think it was a reference to Chelis calling Grant Wahl a KKK member for criticizing Vegara.
     
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  5. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    no it wasn't.
     
  6. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And how would you know???? Chivas' embrace of chauvinism, if not outright racism, is hate. Yes, it is. No, it is not murder. But if you're cool with Chelis attaching "KKK" to Wahl, of all people, then you have no basis for not being cool with that term being applied back to an organization which openly embraces a La Raza vision of the world.
     
  7. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    dont defend what isnt there, that wasn't his intention in his racist comment which is as stupid as the comment that chelis made.
    Chivas is not racist it cant be quite simple.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd appreciate a clarification of what you mean here.
     
  9. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Queue up the race v. ethnicity v. national origin education.
    Been at least a dozen pages.

    Comparing the KKK to anything having to do with a professional soccer team is about as dumb as bigsoccer gets.
     
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  10. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could people just use the word "discrimination" when then mean discrimination that doesn't have anything to do with race? Is that too much to ask?
     
  11. itcheyness

    itcheyness Member

    Jul 30, 2012
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could you check your using-proper-grammar privilege?

    Is that too much to ask?

    *Z-snaps*
     
  12. USFootiefan1980

    LAFC
    United States
    Aug 19, 2005
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, you're soooooooo cool.
     
  13. yellowbismark

    yellowbismark Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he means they're not racist, they're ethnocentric.

    And I agree. Ethnocentric, but not racist. And stupid, very stupid.
     
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  14. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I agree stupid to replicate a long history to another country. it doesn't work and while I find it humorous to have a feeder team it is stupid to think such tradition would be accepted in this day in age.
     
  15. yellowbismark

    yellowbismark Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't call it a feeder team. I'd call it a brand extension. A feeder team implies that there is some exporting of players happening.
     
  16. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That's how we at Guadalajara see it as.
     
  17. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy

    Which I think is ultimately the problem.

    If it was a brand extension they'd do more to put a good product out there.

    If it's just a farm team to try and in theory develop players, the results well and truly don't matter at all, which fits with what we've seen lately.
     
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  18. Utherhimo

    Utherhimo Member

    Dec 28, 2006
    Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    either way chivas is lame...
     
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  19. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about Edmonton? :)

    Seriously, too bad for Chivas and their fans. Terrible the way they have been run, and a terrible concept to being with. And their policy IS discriminatory.

    Hope this gets resolved soon. Chivas, DC, and NE are really the only sore spots left now that SJ is under construction.
     
  20. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure you know what "grammar" means.
     
  21. Kappa74

    Kappa74 Member+

    Feb 2, 2010
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    If only this saga was punctuated with a bit more levity...



    ...the dull witted purple people could better understand.
     
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  22. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Interesting statement ...
     
  23. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Frightening.
     
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  24. USFootiefan1980

    LAFC
    United States
    Aug 19, 2005
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly, I can't say I'm too surprised. MLS in '04 was an entirely different beast than what it is today. He is on owner with deep pockets (granted pockets that require a blowtorch and crowbar apparently...) and I'm sure Garber will give him many chances to burn him. Vergara may not know how to run a futbol/soccer club, but he didn't make all his money being stupid, I'm sure when he bought into the league the deal/contract was most likely filled with enough loop-holes and legal double talk to make ever the most honorable lawyer get a giant legal boner. I would seem that Vergara has burrowed himself deep into MLS and won't budge... unless the money's right.

    And that's what everyone needs to recognize, at some point the league will reach a stature in which someone will be willing to pay Vergara what he wants for the club, it's just a waiting game.
     
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  25. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA

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