2013 In-Season Roster Changes

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by Woodrow, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS would force them to sell because they stand to make a profit and MLS is backwards and crooked. They would rather him leave early on a transfer fee than later on a freebie. And I'm sure they're getting all kinds of complaints from NY and Chivas too.

    What will probably end up happening is that MLS, Chivas, NY, and NE will all sit down and agree on a fair way to split the profits.

    If he's going to leave at the end of the season anyway and NE is still in rebuilding mode (they are) then it doesn't make any sense to let him see out his contract. Especially considering his injury problems as well.
     
  2. Arsenalkid700

    Arsenalkid700 Member

    Aug 9, 2011
    New York City
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. metz

    metz Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    If they can spend 6 Mil on Dempsey they could afford paying him better than the average and he will satay...
     
  4. metz

    metz Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Remember that if Ream come back he will be going to the best bidder not to necessarily to RBNY, because the RBNY get his ransom for him, they sale him out and now he can go to any team he pleases and to who ever pay him better....
     
  5. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls

    Unless we make him a DP, which we'd have to in order to match what he's being paid abroad.
     
  6. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He will? Just like Ream stayed with us when we offered him a 6 digit contract?
     
  7. metz

    metz Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    No, we will have some, but not to much, because Stoke will not take the risk to wait until he is free, because some another team can get him instead, so they will offer some money to the MLS for him, but like I say no to much, since the MLS too will not wait until Agudelo get free and they will not get anything at all and they will accept any offer from part of any team before that happen.....
     
  8. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
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    Feb 5, 2008
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    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. jeremydneezy

    jeremydneezy Member

    Dec 12, 2011
    Greenville, SC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dempsey would have done more to get people to Red Bull Arena than just about anybody. Seems strange that RBNY wouldn't have at least shown more interest in an exploratory fashion.
     
  10. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls

    No offense to Kristian Dyer, but until he has more than a single anonymous source then I'm more inclined to believe Grant Wahl's well cited article saying that Dempsey only considered LA, Seattle, or Toronto.

    If it is true though, I guess Red Bull has their spending limits after all considering Dempsey will be paid almost as much as Henry and Cahill combined. Would have been so great to have him, I think he would have helped us attendance-wise more than most other clubs
     
  11. Arsenalkid700

    Arsenalkid700 Member

    Aug 9, 2011
    New York City
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have the next big thing though... MIKE GRELLA!
     
  12. metz

    metz Member

    Jan 17, 2003
  13. metz

    metz Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    If they give him chance to develop that isn't the way RBNY play the game.....
     
  14. defendyourself

    Jul 13, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no its because Petke they want the 3rd DP to be a bit younger and at a better price point. Dempsey would have helped but not mad he is not with us. We can do better I think
     
  15. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls

    Grella is 26, isn't that too old for your liking?
     
  16. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
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    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you would be okay with signing Dempsey?
     
  17. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
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    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Getting a little late in the day, can we assume that the signing Roxburgh mentioned is out of contract somewhere?
     
  19. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given that they have spent a ton of money with very little to show for it on and off the field*, the Mothership has not been spending indiscriminately with regard to RBNY. So it does not surprise me that they didn't throw 17 million at Dempsey.




    *We can argue all we want about misallocation of said resources and what they actually were to show for it, but the checkbook is not as open as it once was according to Roxborough and Petke and there isn't even a marketing budget for splashes this year.
     
  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  21. Arsenalkid700

    Arsenalkid700 Member

    Aug 9, 2011
    New York City
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. miggly

    miggly Member

    Jan 25, 2000
    NYC
    While not surprised Austria didn't go for this (assuming it's true), I think this should have been a no-brainer. It's the biggest US soccer story in years. Great publicity. Great player. Credit Seattle's ownership for not even blinking.
     
  23. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls

    I'd like to think that if we were only paying our two DP's a combined $1.8 mil instead of $7.5 mil that we wouldn't have blinked (blunk? blank?) either.
     
  24. metz

    metz Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Don't have you been telling me several times that they only cost 350K.... and not the Millions that I have been saying?......
     
  25. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls

    Yep, if we're talking about competition between teams, then all that matters is the cap hit. Paying somebody $4 million doesn't stop us from signing other players any more than paying somebody $350k

    What I also say is that whatever the owners want to pay past the $350k, that's on them and shouldn't be a concern of the fans. That doesn't mean I can't be understanding that Red Bull wants to apply at least some restraint to their spending.
     

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