He was signed according to Roxbury for his accuracy on free kicks and he don't show a shit..... Is that a fact to you.....
metz, the guy wasn't a complete waste of space and the stats show that. That being said he didn't live up to the hype, but more importantly he wasn't the right fit for our team or league. Moving on...
How many goals did Tim Cahill score for you in his first few months at NYRB? How is he doing now? Juninho obviously didnt feel comfortable at the club and he probably would have left even if he had scored some free kicks. The atmosphere at the club didn't appeal to him and some of that negativity probably has to do with the fans who hate players when they over a certain age just because they have an inferiority complex and are afraid of the MLS being a retirement league. You are obviously one of those fans. You might not "give a shit" about the Brazilian league but its been getting a lot of attention because the quality has really improved over the years. A lot of big name Brazilian players are choosing to play in Brazil even though they could play anywhere in the world. And maybe the fans aren't concerned about it being a "retirement league" either because they welcome players like Juninho there. As it turns out he is probably one of the best players at Vasco and there's no reason why the league or the fans should discriminate against him based on his age.
The point is, that to go out to sign a foreign player to displace a national one have to be because this player is a special one and he will do special thing in our team, but if the fellow like Juninho come and fall face down miserably like he did, then we are making a ridicule, because we are let down our players like Bustamante and Christianson, because in this case doesn't make any difference if they were playing any of this player right there instead they will not have been any different than Juninho, and we will have some national young players instead doing our anything.... And maybe any of this player doing nothing game after game for 16/18 consecutives games like Juninho will develop in something and all of us will finishing clapping high five around for years to come.....
Every league brings in foreign players. Why should the MLS be different? If you only want American players in the league then follow the amateur leagues.
He did not "fall face down miserably". He wasn't great. That's all. To paint him as a complete failure of a player isn't fair. Neither of these guys are currently better than Juninho. Christianson has been injured. I've seen Bustamante play. He hasn't been impressive at all. Very mediocre as a late game sub/spot starter. Both of them COULD become good players, but that is only through impressive performances in training and the reserve league which then TRANSLATES to a performance on the field for the full team.
In sports like soccer the only way to find out who is better or good is that player that bring results, so to say that no player is better than Juninho when he hasn't nothing to show is infantile..... And what I say is, that even the worst player on the RBNY roster right now could play instead of him, because if he doesn't do anything, well Juninho did nothing for us either....
I've seen Bustamante and Juninho both play. Juninho is better. But feel free to try and convince me otherwise.
There is a reason why Petke, the coach who sees his players more than us every day, played Juninho a lot and then gave Michael a start AFTER Juno was waived.
Convince you of what?.... I don't say that Bustamante or any other player on the roster is better than Juninho, What I say is; that he didn't nothing for us and that under that circumstances, play with 10 men was a better option and if that is the case putting in Bustamente or any other player instead will be a win-win situation or if in any case Bustamante is a boost will not make any difference and in that case we send him too to enjoy Juninho at Vasco de Gama and free another spot for new HG..............
Again, metz, he lead the team in assists, chances created, and crosses for the first half of the season. All assists were off of set pieces were off of set pieces too. Why doesn't any of that matter to you? No, that isn't a fact. You do not seem to know what a fact actually is. A fact is something that you can actually see and prove, so until you find me the quote from Roxburgh that says "We only want Juninho to score free kicks, nothing else matters" then it is not a fact. Until you can find that, which you won't because Roxburgh never said anything like that, its just another one of your false assumptions.
Juninho did SOMETHING for us. More than Bustamante has. Playing with 10 men is not a better option. That's absolutely ridiculous.
On the world of the blind a one eye man is the King.... But you and every one will still wonder how many assists and goal all those throw away locals kid will make if had not been marginalized because the King of free kick was coming.... And that is the question that you and those like you that like this foreign charade will be asking for years to come..... Juninho play like 13 games some 1000 minutes with 30 years experience around the world and Bustamante it is his first year that not even appear on the statistic list of the team web page.... When I say playing only with 10 men is because he don't did a shit and with 10 men, well who knows maybe will do better but if we don't at leas we was playing short handed....
Nobody wonders that except for you, most people actually understand the limitations of young players. I would bet my life savings that Michael Bustamante would not have lead this team in assists, chances created, crosses, or any stat at all if he got the same amount of playing time as Juninho. Read this article, it has quotes from both the player and Petke about why young players need to be brought along slowly and not just dumped into the starting lineup, and especially not for six straight months like you've asked for before: http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/teams/redbulls2.php?article_id=34407
I never thought Juny was a problem for us and wa s very effective with his passes taht we just did not finish mostly. Not use of why the negativity here . I thought Juny was fine for us.
OK let put this another way: Juninho as a # 10 (CAM) with 20 international year of experience in 19 shots and 20 free kick he make he only have 4 assistances and "zero" goals. .....Barklage in his second MLS year, no international experience have 5 assistances and is a defender playing hurt and part time.... You will tell me, that this is irrelevant?......
Two of Barklage's assists came off of flicking on Juninho's set pieces. I find it strange that you use one player's accomplishments to try and make another player's accomplishments less meaningful, all in the defense of players who haven't accomplished anything. metz, I would actually love to see this, if you could choose a starting eleven and a formation from our current roster, how would you play?
Can't believe Dempsey is going to Seattle. How does red bull not make a move for this guy? He's gonna light up our defense like a Christmas tree. Ugh.
Well, for one he's going to make more than Henry and Cahill combined(!) and is guaranteed it for 4 years on top of a $9mil transfer fee. That's just me playing devil's advocate though, I'd give my left nut to sign Dempsey.
If there's one thing red bull has its money. He would have been a great signing. Now we have to defend against him for many years to come. Great.