Alert: Stadium News & Speculation: A New Hope, or Lucy with The Football

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Riz, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. Kempa

    Kempa Member

    Sep 6, 2007
    Washington Suburbs
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It's a common construction and contracting term. If you use an AIA contract, it means:
     
  2. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    maybe you wouldn't be so cranky if you weren't awake at 4:38 am ;)
     
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  3. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a pretty clear timeline in the term sheet, with four milestones, the first of which is only about six months away. Not saying it's a sure thing, but if what you're looking for is a definite timeline, it's there.
     
  4. Riz

    Riz Member+

    Nov 18, 2004
    R-ville, Murrlin
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    It's easier to say this - but smarter for people to contact him directly, especially DC residents. to talk about the team, this deal and why this is important.
     
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  5. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    Aren't any pubs next to Nationals Park by definition also right next to this supposed DC United stadium?

    Maybe I just have a different idea of distance than many posters here .... I used to sometimes drink at the old Finn & McCools and walk to the 30+ minute walk to RFK.
     
  6. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Americans have exceptionally bad knees. :p
     
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  7. Untroubled by Reason

    Dec 5, 2007
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Plus, we're in poor fitness and need the energy return that bouncing stands provide to keep us going for 90 minutes. :D
     
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  8. fischy

    fischy Member

    Aug 27, 2006
    I see nothing funny about my knees, especially since I tore the first one up playing our beloved game.
     
  9. Shammypantaloons

    Apr 20, 2012
    Club:
    DC United

    That's good to know, but that still estimates an opening date of 3/~4th-18th/2013 at the earliest (home opener). That's assuming no hitches. That's a fine and reasonable time table, but still 4 years or more depending on circumstances. So now we hope that in the interim we still advance the needs of the team.
     
  10. RAL_United

    RAL_United Member

    Nov 1, 2011
    Raleigh
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, construction will probably only take 2 years. But designs, engineering and planning could easily take 1.5 years. Its already halfway through 2013... so beginning of 2017 seems reasonable - if not on the optimistic side.
     
  11. DCWarrior

    DCWarrior Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kojo has been historically very pro DCU and pro stadium so he should provide some good support today.
     
  12. NattyBo

    NattyBo Member+

    Apr 30, 2004
    Nunya
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Tom Sherwood is scheduled to be on though and Kojo lets him run riot with whatever he has to say, so..
     
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  13. greekchampion04

    greekchampion04 Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    whover is on the Kojo show ALMOST explained the deal properly...

    "DCU owners will pay for the stadium, city will spend $150 preparing the land, moving reeve center, and giving the land to DCU"

    made it clear that its not another nats park screwjob, but needs correction that the land is being leased, not given. theres a difference.
     
  14. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    Lets all be carefull...
     
  15. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Ideally some caller will suggest to Tom Sherwood that he use the phrase "leasing the land to DC United" and not "giving the land to DCU" -- although the lease rates will be extremely affordable to the soccer team.
     
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  16. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Not really a great call because the amount that DC United is paying for the land is $1 a year.
     
  17. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Isn't it $1 a year? (thought I read that yesterday)...for how long? If it is a $1 year for a period of time beyond the expected usable life of the stadium...it is essentially a gift....no? (not saying it is a bad gift but sometimes the words lease and give can be interchangable ;) )
     
  18. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Sure. But DC United is not being "given" the land, in the sense that they are not taking ownership of it, and the land will still belong to the city (who is investing to buy/own/control it).
     
  19. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    My understanding is that the lease is for the "expected usable life of the stadium" -- but not beyond that timeframe.

    And yes, there are probably other items and facets of the deal that could be discussed and explored with Kojo and his guests today.
     
  20. greekchampion04

    greekchampion04 Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lease and give are not interchangeable... with a lease, if this whole project fails somewhere along the line, DC owns the land and it can be used for a public purpose. if DCU owns the land and the project goes nowhere, it turns into another poplar point.

    the terms in the current agreement are $1 year for 25-35 years (life of the stadium), after which, the land reverts to the city.
     
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  21. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Was there an ownership group at that point? I thought MLB made DC pay for construction.
     
  22. nobletea

    nobletea Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 29, 2004
    HarCo
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And if the team decides to build a new stadium elsewhere in 2050, the city gets the land back to sell, etc. The major point is it still belongs to the city, as an asset, not given to the team as something they can later sell off.

    That's a really important distinction.
     
  23. greekchampion04

    greekchampion04 Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. DCWarrior

    DCWarrior Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doesn't the price of the lease also include a share of the profit generated from the stadium but no shared losses except for the lowering of some taxes for DCU if they go into the negative on a year?

    So it's essentially $1+ the good possibility of a lot more.
     
  25. BBBulldog

    BBBulldog Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2004
    Dinamo Zagreb
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    maybe in DC cos it works fine elsewhere in America :)
     

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