Quarterly Quarrel: Financial Discussion Part 4

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Arsenal was never able to resist the pull of the big european clubs - its nothing really new.

    Think back to Anelka, Vieira etc.

    Then along came city.
     
  2. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I am not seeing the difference.

    When the big european clubs came calling - the Arsenal players left even during the good years.

    Then along came city and started doing it within the league.

    However you care to look at it - there are only 3 premiership teams that can retain their players.

    Arsenal never was one of those teams.
     
  3. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--

    There is a difference and it comes down to revenue. Arsenal cannot keep their big players because of their wage structure and player recruitment strategy.

    However, Spurs and Arsenal, Sunderland and Aston Villa can all tell a big club to sod off if they so please because once you are secure in the prem, you have decent revenue and providing you are not run into the ground by idiot management, you can stand on your own.

    I feel that the same is not true in La Liga where there are clearly 2 haves and 18 have nots. In Germany, if you play well enough, eventually you will play for Bayern. It really is as simple as that.
     
  4. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The underlying football business at Arsenal last year was loss making.

    The transfer income is what makes the business model work.

    Arsenal have been a selling club for most of the last decade.
     
  5. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Or you could say they are a buying club.

    They have loads of turnover because they have loads of turnover. They faced, as they routinely do, a veteran with an expiring contract and they moved him for money. We didn't even approach them for RvP until it became apparent that he was available. The difference between that and us declaring in the press and strong arming them, say the way we determined we were going to have Carrick is world's apart and for the most part, those occurrences are the exception in the prem as opposed to the rule in other leagues.
     
  6. pgr17

    pgr17 Member+

    Sep 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    @terrychristian - Bebe - a bit of pure spin - heard that the real price United paid was 250,000 quid - yet 7m and 8m constantly mentioned #glazernomics
     
  7. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    and yet it is only now mentioned? odd
     
  8. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    It was mentioned in our accounts clearly and the quarterly reports IIRC.

    7/8 million plus Portuguese club also confirmed.
     
  9. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nike's exclusivity period ending this month with regards to the Kit Deal, i read.

    Wonder whether we'll negotiate outside now with other options ?

    You'd imagine Nike would desperately want to keep us with them though.
     
  10. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    After what Arsenal have secured with Puma, after no significant win for almost a decade, I expect United to make Nike to pay.

    That being said, I don't want any pretty boy skin hugging kit. I'd be more than happy with Nike. They are classy enough to be worn, without having to drop 55% body weight.
     
  11. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    It's very refreshing to know that all the money made by the Nike deal will be put back into the football club :thumbsup:
     
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  12. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City

    Ahh, NM. You're back in this thread. With such positivity as well.
     
  13. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  14. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    And so it begins...
     
  15. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Steep price given what's the match.

    Even more so for those outside the UK.
     
  16. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Testing the market.
     
  17. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yup that's how it starts. Greedy corporate bastards
     
  18. Diable Rouge

    Diable Rouge Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    maybe we suck at closing transfers but no team closes more commercial deals than united. we have regional partners for every single commodity it seems. :p
     
  19. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yeah, who says we aren't signing people this summer, eh?
     
  20. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Being a football club with hundreds of millions in commercial revenue but being attrocious at transfer dealings is a bit like being a well-hung adonis with erectile dysfunction.
     
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  21. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    MUST succeeded at making Old Trafford an asset of community value, even though the club officially lodged a protest. A good thing, IMO.
     
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  22. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    It's very good news ... I can see some very pissed off people in Tampa tonight. :d
     
  23. Diable Rouge

    Diable Rouge Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    regional sponsorship deals ftw. transfers?! aintnobodygottimefodat!
     
  24. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    GLOBAL: Campari agrees Aperol tie-up with Manchester United FC

    By James Wilmore | 7 August 2013
    [​IMG]

    Gruppo Campari's Italian aperitif brand Aperol is to become the official global spirits sponsor of Manchester United Football Club.
    The drinks firm has signed a deal for the tie-up to start from 1 January next year, it revealed after yesterday's first-half results. “This is a huge franchise that has a huge global following... and will give Aperol a very nice boost in terms of visibility,” Campari's CEO Bob Kunze-Concewitz told analysts on a conference call. More details of the link-up would be revealed later in the year, he added.
    Aperol suffered in Campari's H1 as poor weather in Europe dragged its sales down by 10%. The 11% abv brand has also been affected by a commercial dispute in Germany with a “key” retailer, Campari said without giving details. Aperol's main markets are Italy, Germany and Austria, according to Campari's website.

    http://www.just-drinks.com/news/cam...eed&utm_medium=rss-feed&utm_campaign=rss-feed
     
  25. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    #dontcaregimmetransfers
     
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