Fire John Hackworth [R]

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  1. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    You bastard! :p
     
  2. usfutbol12

    usfutbol12 Member

    Oct 15, 2009
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What the heck is Hack smoking making this statement? Roger has played 37 minutes all season, that's not what I call an opportunity, not even close. How many times has Jack, our currently undisputed best player, disappeared for 37 minutes or more? And that's not even counting the fact that Roger's 37 minutes are broken up over 3 games. This statement just exudes so much BS it's not even funny. If I was Roger I'd be furious. Leo gets 2 games as a starter, that right there is an opportunity. Trotting Roger out for the last 10-20 minutes and hoping for a miracle is not an opportunity. What a very Hack-like thing for Hack to say.
     
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  3. uncleo

    uncleo Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Downingtown, pa
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Union Tally
    This statement to me speaks volumes about Hack take on Roger. To me this tells me that its not on the field but rather off the field that is costing Roger playing time. So the question arises what is he doing/not doing "off the field"?


    All I have been saying all year, how else are we going to know what he does or doesn't have unless he is given a legit shot. 37 min over three games is not. Soumare got a shot played well, Leo got a shot and proved he is not ready yet.
     
  4. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd assume it's the fitness issues, the same ones Hack mentioned before training camp.
     
  5. uncleo

    uncleo Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Downingtown, pa
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If that is the case then why even mention off the field. Is Roger secretly pulling an Adu every night.
     
  6. BuddhaWake

    BuddhaWake Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Philadelphia
    can he not bulk up a bit with that steady diet of shrimp?
     
  7. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Quite simply, Hack believes that Roger Torres is a poor defender who has not improved on the defensive side of the ball. Like it or not, a midfielder who is good offensively but poor defensively does not fit into Hack's system.
     
  8. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe it's committment issues? Meaning is he fully comitted to being a professional footballer? Does he put in the extra work and time (gym, after practice, film room, diet, etc.)? I don't know, I'm just speculating.
     
  9. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The thing is, Roger met Hack's challenge in the preseason and was our best player there. He still didn't earn time. If I was Roger, I wouldn't be too motivated if nothing I do can get me on the team.

    Though to play the devil's advocate, you have to build around the players we have. We don't have any midfielders outside of Carroll who can defend. Maybe Hack needs to rethink his system.
     
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  10. Doop

    Doop Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because our defense is obviously such a high quality that we allow the least... oh wait.

    My Bad.
     
  11. UnionBulldog

    UnionBulldog Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Ridley Park
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think we will know the truth unless we get a player (current or former) to give their take on Roger. He has talent but could it be his age and being far away from home that is impacting him in some form? Being 20 in a foreign country where no matter how much your teammates like you and get along with you there is still a cultural difference. Who can Torres really relate to on the team? Fernandez could be the closest?

    Can't resist see bold - coughiminjuredbutmynameislahoudandiplaydefensetoocough

    now to find where Gabe is staying (probably with Mike) to get the dirt on Roger......
     
  12. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    England
    And why is Torres' failing uniquely punished? Should an AM create chances? Marfan never does. Should a winger be able to cross? Cruz can't. Should a CM be able to complete a pass? Daniel can't. I'm struggling to think of anything Fernandes has shown he CAN do, other than translate.
     
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  13. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States

    I didn't count Lahoud since I'm pretty sure the Union are filling out a missing person's report. :p
     
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  14. EmeraldDawn

    EmeraldDawn Member+

    May 11, 2008
    Brick, NJ
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    Amobi?
     
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  15. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    I've noticed that, since Cruz has been moved to the left, he will more times than not knock the ball off a defender and have it go out for a corner. Seeing as we are pretty good on set pieces lately (knock wood), I'll give DC44 mucho credit for helping set them up.
     
  16. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    #DefenderoftheYear
     
  17. LINETRASH

    LINETRASH Member+

    Jul 19, 2011
    Philadelphia
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    Sunderland AFC
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    United States
    if you could tell me what that system is that would be much appreciated.
     
  18. CopaMundial

    CopaMundial Member

    Sep 11, 2006
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with most of what Dills said. Just a few slight modifications.
     
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  19. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
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    Philadelphia Union
    There has to be something deeper than defensive problems and even fitness issues here...
     
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  20. SmashtheVan

    SmashtheVan Member+

    Jan 13, 2009
    South Jersey
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Say what you will about goals given up, but right now the Union lead the league in goals scored.
     
  21. OwlSaver

    OwlSaver Member+

    Jan 26, 2005
    Berwyn, PA (127, J)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You forgot the asterisk. We did not deserve most of those goals. The other teams all earned their goals.
     
  22. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    The Union's new mascot ...

    [​IMG]
     
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  23. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It doesn't need to be deeper than that. It may all relate to fitness as much of defending is putting in the effort to transition quickly and cover ground. If you don't have the appropriate fitness, it becomes hard as an attacking player to do either one adequately. And yes, there is definitely an off-field aspect to a professional athlete's fitness. Proper nutrition, rest/recovery, workouts, etc, working on weaknesses, etc. I remember an interview with Michael Bradley when he was asked what he did in his free time after a training session. He basically said that all he did was prepare himself mentally and physically for the next days training session. Not veryexciting but so it goes for pro athletes.

    I haven't seen much of Torres (who has?) but was at the Columbus game when he came in late. My impression of his few touches was that he played like a youth player in his decisions. Small sample size, I know.
     
  24. BuddhaWake

    BuddhaWake Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Philadelphia
    We are all about youth!
     
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  25. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1-4-2 against playoff teams.
     

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