News: Youth Will Be Served - Academy, Reserves & Loans News 2012/13 [R]

Here is what I feared most. With him gone; that includes Morrison Pgoba Daelhi, top talents in the past few years. Great deal of business.

 

Not similar to Pogba or Morrison at all tbh.

This is way weirder actually. Why the hell would we sell him when he's still under contract to us ?

 

The ********...?

 

You tell me.

 

nimma

got shit to say now?

 

Daehli to Molde Official on a 2 year deal.

I'm frankly bewildered by this unless it's some sort of Barca type buyback arrangement due to homesickness.

 

Only reason I/Twitter can think of is homesickness. Makes no sense to me. Hope we have a buyback.

 

This is more shocking than Pogba, Morrison, Pique or Rossi.

 

Btw, on another note getting the non british kids into the academy from abroad at 15/16/17 isn't working that well for us so far.

Guess, we've earned decent fees on some transfers but not one of them has made more than fleeting appearances for the first team.

Januzaj the best shot remaining.

 

You are blaming the player? He knew he would not have a chance since he never got a sniff of the first team at 17. He has not been a regular as a reserve player, and he saw the likes of these good youngsters leave. Things are now different than they were 20 years ago. Some players need to be blood in earlier or at least shown that they are wanted.

 

He's a bit delusional if he thought he deserved a first team chance at 17 at a club like United given his size and how he had developed so far. Januzaj has leap frogged him last season by a bit and even he has remained balance.

Don't think that would be a factor here or he wouldn't have moved to United in the first place. He's generally a grounded kid from all reports and has a grounded upbringing plus is a United fan too.

His development was going fine despite having bit of a drop off form last 2/3 months.

 

Jesus Christ. Some of you guys want these kids to be playing in the first team at age 12! Yes our midfield is kind of shit, but some of the expectations you lot have regarding youth is ridiculous. Some players don't even come of age until their early to mid 20s and you want to throw a 17 year old into the first team picture?

C'mon man. Get real. There are other issues that affect young players other than playing time. They know they are at Manchester United, and only the best get to play for the first team. They are also kids, and want to be near friends, and maybe are impatient and are willing to go abroad/Championship for more time.

You need to be more realistic jeff. Pogba was to an extent a loss,but he was only 18 and had the bug of his agent in his ear. He's already angling again. Morrison thought he was Tupac and wanted to be a thug, good for him. Being in the first team wouldn't have magically made him a disciplined well-intentioned young man.

And if Daehli really thought he was ready for the first team, or if any of us think that 17-18 year olds can just stroll in apart from end of season throwaway games, then you need a rethink. Our midfield is shit, but this team did just win the league. Do you think Daehli would have won us the CL?

C'mon man.

 

Look at someone like Thiago who is dithering over leaving Barcelona at 22 for regular first team chances. Let alone dicking them and leaving at 17/18.

Anyways, i doubt very much as i said above that expecting first team oppurtunities at Manchester United at 17 was the reason that Daehli left.

Also, he had 1 year left on his contract so we have sold him. Would be very interested to know the terms of the transaction.

 

I don't think he'd have expected to stroll into our team. But he probably expected that he'd get a throw away game or two and possibly train with the first teammers. At the end of the day, it is our responsibility to let young players we snatch up from god knows where understand that we value them and that they have a place in the team. Or more accurately, to lie about those things until they can fetch a higher price when they are eventually farmed.


Comparing him to Thiago is silly. Thiago is at his origin club practically. Far different.

 

He had a year left on his contract, so it's a mutual thing i imagine rather than a Pogba type situation.

We could have theoretically kept him for a year more to try and convince him and see how he goes.

 

Most of our youngsters in and around the u21's have sessions with the first team.
Even Luke Hendrie, Mccullough and Mcginty IIRC were training with the first team ahead of Real Madrid CL match and they've all been released.

Thiago joined Barca at 15 from Flamengo. Daehli joined United at 16 after having trials at 15 from Molde.

What's far different ?

Same applies to Pogba, as this discussion is probably more prevalent to him than Daehli. Doubt very much that Daehli left due to this reason.

 

Since when do we have to convince ********ing kids to stay at United. Unless they are prodigies, and I mean prodigies, ala Rossi/Pogba to an extent, they should want to be here. We do need to give the good ones a throwaway game and have the manager mention their name everyonce in awhile, no doubt. But they are not better than the options we have already, bar Anderson/Fletcher, and therefore should not act like they are. And as fans, we should recognize that and not criticize when every 16 year old in the U18s that had 2 good touches in a reserve game aren't called up immediately.

They are not pros yet. They are teenagers. They are not Rooney, Messi, Ronaldo, even Johnny Evans, at their respective positions. Therefore, they will work and
when the time comes they'll be good enough or they'll leave.

We have delayed 1 or 2 people to the extent they left - mainly just Rossi that I'm sad about. But do you see Craig Cathcart lighting it up, or any others of the kids that barely get a look in to our first team? They didn't get a look in for a reason. Possebon is hiding out with Edward Snowden at this point.

Daehli seems to be just fine, he simply wanted to go home. He isn't some foolhardy idiot thinking he should be lining up against Real Madrid at 17, unlike some of us it seems.

 

practically I dunno about you, but I don't think most players think they are going to be a professional for sure at 14. I think they know that's what they want, but not convinced it will happen.

In any case, he's got a brother at the club and family support and he's also behind all time greats while the club was arguably the best in the world. The same cannot be said of United. Then there's the history of us with young talented players.

Regardless. I'm sad he's leaving and it is certainly down to him, but I just am not moderately surprised when a young player chooses to leave Manchester United. We don't do well by them.

 

I'm like this close to giving up.

 

MHT ‏@MagnusHT 23m
@PeterBolton3 United have a buy back clause, unofficial. A pundit just said so on Norwegian television, had a chat with his parents.

 

So next Januzaj will be sold or released because we have to give appearances to Giggs and Fletcher or Young next season and the same drum will be repeated, not good enough, United dont bow down, but are willing to put a release clause in a 22 year old contract, we are that desperate.

 

You guys are missing the point. I did not say put him in the first team. If he got a bench appearance in the last game of the season or the few before. Knowing the experiences of the previous youths not given a chance in the first team, he thought might as well leave now and get first team football. He knew that he had to wait until at 19-20 but even the ones who are 19-20 are not even being considered for a bench or start in a meaningless EPL game. Daelhi was probably looking ahead knowing the result because of what happened to Eikrem, Rossi, Macheda, Pique, Pogba, Morrison. These were all good talents that did not get a chance in the first team. Macheda was forced to play because we had no attackers at the time and everyone was injured, and for the last 2 years he is playing on the team how ridiculous is that.

He should be given hope of making it to the first team knowing he was one of the better prospects by training with the first team and making reserve appearances. Daelhi was wise credit to him.