With Mourinho around, I very much doubt it. I'd make a joke about taking a first purchase option on one of your younger players if we do loan him to you......but I don't know enough about your side at the moment to know whom we'd want. (No thank you to Balotelli, by the way )
If that's the case then its definitely a no brainer. I also don't relate to this consensus that Reus is discernibly 'better' than Schurrel.
Reus has certainly performed a level higher than Schürrle this season, and also last season. If you look at the goals and assists stats, Reus' are superior to Schürrle's. Reus is a undisputed starter in the German NT, Schürrle's been on the periphery ever since EURO 2012. I'm not sure how you conclude that Reus isn't the superior player.
From an investment stand-point its not so clear cut. Schurrel is 22 and for all we know he's only just scratched the surface of his potential. I also don't think the German NT starting 11 is set in stone right now. You have a collection of supremely talented midfielders and only 3-4 starting slots - a lot could happen in a year.
True, but for all we know he's an early bloomer who's already reached his ceiling. We don't know. Can't say I disagree, but Reus definitely has a more comfortable position in the NT than Schürrle. Agree to disagree, perhaps?
I'd say that the German NT isn't a real indicator of much. Goetze didn't play a whole lot in the last tourney, now look at him.
He was recovering from an injury at the time, and displacing a 2010 World Cup Golden Boot Winner in Müller or a world-class number 10 in Özil ain't exactly the easiest.
Jfranse that was more or less my point. I think your looming into it too much. Who's to say KDeB had any emotional tie to 14. Plus he played all of 3 or 4 preseason matches for Chelsea. And who knows, perhaps Romeu will leave on loan and KDeB will get #6.
A German friend of mine had the same reaction - was baffled by CFC's interest in Marin at the time. Many here say he didn't get a fair shot, but that's from our limited perspective as fans from the barstool. Certainly, he had an opportunity to prove himself in training and exhibition matches, and in the end was behind nearly every midfielder on the team. Rafa preferred Yossi on several important occasions this past season, which is pretty damning evidence imo.
I see German fans haven't stopped tooting that horn. Not to say he isn't a very good player but the way Bund fans talk about him you'd think he's the second coming of Beckenbauer.
Relax, we're just overcompensating for his underratedness in the rest of the world. I remember a discussion on BS around who was better, Di Maria or Müller. I don't know about you, but I'm taking Müller on my team any day of the week, plus,if I'm not mistaken, Müller was also Bayern's topscorer in the CL this season. Also, displacing Robben in a team, ain't something just any "very good player" can do. And also, could you be more specific about the comments in question that you believe overrate him?
i think more than anything he was using that stat to support his argument of why goetze didnt get the nod for the manschaft
I'm not sure "miles" is the right word, but certainly true at the moment, though that's considering Reus wouldn't go for less than 40M and Draxler's buyout clause is 50M. In that context, 20M for Schurrle is eminently reasonable, especially considering we're buying him for depth as much as anything else. To put it another way, would you rather have Schurrle or Ashley Young? Even if it's a push, they cost about the same amount, and while Young's hardly amazing, he's been a pretty capable squad player for you.
They get the number when they are registered in it they then tend to keep that number unless their preferred one is available. KDB might have been given the number as a... here you go wear this for now as we want to see how you are at the moment before you go to Werder. Now he has come back he can chose what is available but as Schurrle is in the country and at the club at the moment he will have had first pick.
Mangala now allegedly has a 42.4 million pound release clause according to the Presidential Mouthpiece of Porto amazing that the release clause has allegedly tripled since we were interested in him. Why do we even bother dealing with some of these clubs...
Currently, Reus is a better player than Schuerrle. While Reus made a lot of noise at Gladbach, his transition to BvB was fantastic, but a lot may have had to do with Klopp and the team-play Dortmund has. Schuerrle lit it up at Mainz but his transition during the same era to Leverkusen did not go as well as the media predicted it to be. It was during this time that Reus also displaced Schuerrle on the NT. Take this info for what it is worth. As far as Marin, he has a lot of talent...I hope he gets the chance to showcase it but I am afraid his confidence is shot and his skill may have regressed as far as being a "sharp" player goes.
In all fairness, I would rather not have Young at all so bit of an easy choice there. All I am saying is that if I put young German talent into different tiers, Schurrle would be in the third tier for me along with someone like Holtby for example. Purely as a depth signing, it is all good though.
obviously everyone on this board hopes it turns out to be good business and he goes on to become a better player under jose. but i don't think anyone was just really excited about the links, but now that he's here we'll back him and hope the best for him as well. time will tell. putting the price of Reus and Draxler in perspective, as well as Goetze at this point, i think the price on Schurrle wasn't too bad, especially if he actually CAN kick on and become the player many thought he could/can be.
If we really did Cavani then I think we should sell Torres. He is currently top scorer of the Confederations Cup, so we find ourselves in an enviable positions: owner of a player who could be top scorer of two consecutive international cups .
it's been discussed quite a bit, but selling him on is easier said than done. honestly, i'm kind of torn on our striker situation and exactly what we should do. i'm really reluctant to see that club spend so much money on a striker again, and i think that a torres lukaku striker force could really do pretty good, especially under jose (hopefully), but will that be enough to win the league? i don't know. one would have to think though, if we do get Cavani, there will be quite a few pundits making us out to be favorites to win the league given all of the changes at the top clubs. i'm not sure i'm ready to go that far, even as much as i want it to happen.
Given how awful Holtby looked for Spurs, I think that's being quite harsh. I agree at the moment Schurrle isn't on the level of Reus and Draxler, but as Cris said, that also depends on how he adapts to England. Given that he's a direct player, England may well suit him better. As for Young - OK, fair point, though as a squad player he's quite decent, even though less so now that no one's buying his diving in the box.