No African team will ever win the World Cup.

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  1. worms

    worms Red Card

    Mar 28, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Seriously, their football has failed to progress over the last 10 years or so. In every international competition I have watched (Confederations Cup, World Cup, African Cup of Nations) virtually all their teams play "shit on a stick" football. Technically they are OK, they have good physical attributes but they are massively lacking in mental attributes, like general intelligence in both attack and defense, poor concentration, their defenders have poor positional sense.

    I remember Pele saying an African team will win the cup before the 20th Century ends, that was 25 years ago, since then they have barely improved. African teams collective performance in 2010 was disgustingly bad. It was embarrassing to watch.

    Asian teams have progressed at a much quicker rate, just look at the football Japan played yesterday, African teams lack the intelligence and technique to play like that. The only non South American Or European team I can see winning the World Cup in the future are South Korea or Japan. Maybe even the U.S, but that is a long way away from ever happening.
     
  2. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Your overall point is true, but I see Nigeria as the first WC champion coming from outside of SA or Europe.
     
  3. worms

    worms Red Card

    Mar 28, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    But why? This generation certainly doesn't have a chance of getting to the QF, never mind winning it.

    Do they have good youth players and good young coaches? Tactically this Nigeria team looks poor, towards the end of yesterdays game they didn't have a clue how to break Uruguay down, with 10 minutes left Nigeria still had 5 or 6 players behind the ball when they themselves were attacking, instead of taking a risk. Often they only had 1 man in and around Uruguays penalty box when Uruguay had 3 CB's on the field. It's this lack of intelligence that seriously hinders African teams.

    Also, like virtually every African team their defenders have poor positioning and bad concentration, their positioning for Forlan's goal yesterday was amateurish. Not only that, but African teams seriously lack creativity, all of them do.Japan have Kagawa and Honda, who do Nigeria have? Their most creative player is Mikel, that in itself highlights the problem.



    I don't see why anybody would think Nigeria will challenge for the World Cup before Japan, as seen yesterday, Japan play a modern form of progressive football. In possession they are dynamic, direct and highly technical. If they sort out their CB pairing they will be light years ahead of this Nigeria team, and with more players from the J-League coming to Europe Japan will have more quality and depth in their squad in the near future.
     
  4. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Considering what a crap shoot the WC is once you get to the knock out rounds, I don't know how anyone could make a proclamation like this. Anything can happen, and if World Cups are played for the next 200 years, then statistically there'd be a good chance Africa would eventually win one of those.
     
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  5. schwuppe

    schwuppe Member+

    Sep 17, 2009
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    FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih
    Ever is quite a long time
    I'm sure we've witnessed a few events that were predicted to never happen
     
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  6. worms

    worms Red Card

    Mar 28, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    At least for the foreseeable future then. I don't see them contending to win the next World Cup for the next 20 years at least...
     
  7. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Of course, I don't think this generation will win it for Nigeria, but neither will this generation win it for Japan, even if they may advance farther at the WC. My belief that Nigeria shall win it before Japan, or anyone else outside of UEFA or Conmebol, is implied in your own commnet. They are tactically naive, but tactics are relatively easy to correct and instill, the same was often said of Spain, with its long footballing tradition, that they tried to play the game beyond their capabilites which resulted in earlier than anticipated exits at the WC, right before the last WC they had only reached one WC semifinal in their history. Then they improved on their tactics and strategy, they developed a couple of clutch players they had previoulsy lacked, particularly Iniesta and Casillas, and then it all changed. The talent is obvious for Nigeria, more so than Japan, and I see their mistakes as growing pains that should be corrected as the nation grows in footballing stature.
     
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  8. worms

    worms Red Card

    Mar 28, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    How so? Honda and Kagawa are easily better than any Nigerian player, Japan also have much better fullbacks, deeper in midfield I give the edge to Japan. But beyond comparing players Japans team is just better technically than Nigeria, and they combine this with greater tactical awareness.

    Nigeria might have more depth but Japan look to have the more talented starting 11 to me. I could just never imagine Nigeria being able to play as well as Japan did against Italy. I have yet to see a African team play that well.
     
  9. FC PORTO BGC

    FC PORTO BGC Member

    Jul 26, 2010
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Football its not NBA.... I dont know if "ever"....but i dont see no African Team winning a WC in the next decades... The best African Teams would not qualify in most of European Groups of qualification to the WC ... Thats the truth...Football its much more than a phisical Sport... No matter if you are Black, white or yellow .... like in NBA or American Football...where it does...
     
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  10. jogger

    jogger Member

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Obviously a troll thread, regarding this poster history. Japan is too naive defensively to win a World Cup soon . They have better fullback yet they have already allowed 7 goals in two games ?? They played very well against Italy yet they allowed 4 goals during this match... Teams with "great tactical awareness" don't take so many goals, no matter the level of the teams they face. If you knew anything about international football you would know that defense win tournaments. Secondly you will be able to speak about an asian victory when asian teams will be able to send at least one team in KO stage twice in a row, which has yet to happen ( Many thought that they had arrived after the 2002 WC).
    That being said I don't think that we will see a non European/South American WC winner soon.
     
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  11. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Part of the problem is that some of the best African players usually end up playing for European national teams.
     
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  12. koola

    koola Member

    Oct 12, 2011
    Scotland, it's crap.
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    African teams had a disastrous campaign at the last WC. The cup was played in Africa but they were terrible. Only one of six African teams qualified for the second round even though African and South American teams were put in the same pot. Things are, if anything, getting worse. I won't be surprised to see no African teams in the second round in 2014.

    Btw, Nigeria haven't advanced to the second round since 1998.
     
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  13. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    no country outside of Uruguay, Brazil, Argentina, Holland, Spain, France, Italy, England and Germany will ever win the world cup
     
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  14. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    What about Tahiti?
     
  15. MLSguy

    MLSguy New Member

    Jun 22, 2013
    Hoffman Estates, Illinois
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    LOL Tahiti! They finally scored a goal!
     
  16. The Double

    The Double Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    Denver
    I can't be the only one that misses Maruti right about now.
     
  17. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    Still around as zahzah.
     
  18. SpaniardFC

    SpaniardFC Member

    Jun 8, 2009
    Vilagarcía de Arousa
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    It's a long shot, but I think portugal will win 1 in the next 100 years. Also because of seeding, and injuries/red cards, perhaps a chile/colombia can win it as well.
     
  19. puertorricane

    puertorricane Red Card

    Feb 4, 2012
    Carolina PR
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Worms spreading his envy and hatred all over the place.....i guess is africa's turn


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  20. worms

    worms Red Card

    Mar 28, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Why would anybody envy African football?
     
  21. BigEffingGooner

    BigEffingGooner Member+

    Apr 25, 2012
    Austin, Tx
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy

    Why? The world cup has allready been held for 83 years, and of 19 world cups 12 of them have been won by only 3 country (Brazil 5, Italy 4, Germany 3). 17 of them by only 5 (add 2 apiece for Argentina and Uruguay). 3 of the 4 top contenders for next summer's world cup come from amongst those 5 nations too.
     
  22. Notpassingtheball

    Jun 23, 2013

    Portugal, Colombia, Belgium, Japan (With a world class striker) is all definitely within the realms of possibility.
    That said, I know this might sound crazy. But Ivory Coast 2010 with Uruguay’s draw for example could have won it. Drogba is a type of player that wins cup competition with his playing style
     
  23. Notpassingtheball

    Jun 23, 2013

    You are forgetting a lot of things. The World Cup truly became THE world cup in 98 before then it was the South America-Europe cup with invites. Also while Europe prospered with parts of South
    America majority of the world were turmoil.

    And since football was a European game; it isn’t a wonder why they won the most with South American nations with heavy European influence.

    Also definitely within the next 2 decades, Europe will have to give up at least 3 spots to Asia(Definitely rising) and Africa if it improves its economic situation and football overall.

    Football is new to a lot of places especially Asia and many nations are JUST NOW finding their own feet.
     
  24. BigEffingGooner

    BigEffingGooner Member+

    Apr 25, 2012
    Austin, Tx
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy

    You're having a laugh with that one. African teams have yet to perform truly well in a world cup, and outside of South Korea's massively corrupt run in 02, neither have Asian nations. I am sure that eventually those regions will produce better quality - and yes, already you are seeing some more quality from Asia and more of their players making an impact on the global game. But we are a long, long way from either of those condfederations deserving to take spots from Europe.
     
  25. Notpassingtheball

    Jun 23, 2013

    Just look at 2010, Japan with ease beat Denmark and gave the Dutch a tough match. South Korea walked through Greece and gave Uruguay a tough match as well. Australia beat Serbia as well. The lower ranked European team like Greece, Denmark, Switzerland, Slovenia or Slovakia for example are not better from the best of Asia and Africa.

    The Asia confederation has done well for itself and definitely with 20 years should be given one more spot. I don’t want to engage in politics but the rise of Asia is evident and a lot of Asian nations such as China, Thailand, are following SK-Japan’s model. Also with major reforms in Australia expect a stronger Australia squad in the next coming decade. And you have Uzbekistan coming up and Iraq coming out of war and spending big on football.

    Like I said for Africa, it has to show a lot for it to be given more spots. I definitely think Africa can turn around everything in at least 20 year. This is a BIG IF
     

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