2014 World Cup Qualifying [R]

Discussion in 'Portugal: National Teams' started by Area 51, Jul 30, 2011.

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  1. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto

    I know we do well in tournaments but we are starting to take this whole qualifying thing for granted. We know we play like crap and still feel some entitlement to qualify. Luck will run out sooner or later.
     
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  2. Ventilan

    Ventilan Member

    Oct 6, 2011
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Qualifying or not, supporting and actually getting excited about A Selecção would be more natural if things were done properly in the FPF. As far as I'm concerned.
     
  3. vilafria

    vilafria Member+

    Jun 2, 2005
    Agreed and that's my fear too
     
  4. portugal#1

    portugal#1 Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Neto to replace Pepe against Russia? Jeez we're thin at CB.
     
  5. vilafria

    vilafria Member+

    Jun 2, 2005
    Why not Nunes ?
     
  6. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    As it stands right now portugal if team that is currently second in their group were to catch up to the 7 games which portugal has played and take maximum points(highly unlikely) and the points against the bottom placed team taken away this would be the situation.

    Croatia 10
    Bulgaria 7
    Austria 8
    Hungary8
    Albania 7
    Portugal 8
    Greece 10
    Montenegro 8
    France 10

    Bulgaria fall out due to inferior goal difference.

    Top seeds
    Portugal, France, Croatia, Greece

    Montenegro, Albania, Austria, Hungary

    If we can't beat those four sides we shouldn't be in brazil.

    However this will all change because there are so many tight groups with heaps of quality. My fear is a side like Croatia or England could miss out due to the unbalanced nature of the groups. Group E and G are a joke how two groups like that come together makes no sense. Europe is so difficult to qualify from groups like that make it even tougher.
     
  7. portugal#1

    portugal#1 Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Portugal once again proves to be clutch when the cards are against them. I don't think Russia will slip up that bad to let go of first place, but Portugal should be easily in the playoff against a much inferior opponent.
     
  8. Sarajevsko Pivo

    Sarajevsko Pivo Member+

    Oct 14, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Albania has the oppertunity to finish second in their group. I have my fingers crossed for your team.



    Hope to see you in Brazil :)
     
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  9. Aveirenses

    Aveirenses Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Guardiolunya
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Personally, I can't say I have seen too much of Neto, have you???

    Pepe, on the other hand, I've been watching and he's been falling off. Personally, I was never a huge fan of his, even from his Porto days because he lacks any real discipline. He's like Ricardo Carvalho without any of the controlled tackling. We'll miss him, but in the long run keeping him on the team would bring more headaches than solutions.
     
  10. Aveirenses

    Aveirenses Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Guardiolunya
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Because it's extremely hard to bring a player that's towards the last third of their career into the national team where there has already been established leaders for a long time. He's a good player but you don't want to imbalance the longevity of the current squad. Nunes has a lot of experience, and while that can prove crucial sometimes, it's better to focus on the team-unit as a whole. Neto still has something to prove, Nunes would be playing with his only chance.
     
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  11. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I hope to see your squad in Brazil as well, a good team with quality attacking options that plays soccer the way it should be played.

    Good to see you topping your group.
     
  12. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Pepe was probably the best centreback not named Pique or Hummels at Euro 2012.

    He's had a tough season, being injured a few times and then coming back too quickly before regaining true form and fitness.

    A good summer will do him wonders.

    We need Pepe at his best if we have any hopes of going deep in the World Cup.
     
  13. portugal#1

    portugal#1 Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    He sure showed a lot that game, however once pepe is back in form I am sure he will be back in the starting XI
     
  14. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Antunes should be Coentrao's reserve

     
  15. vilafria

    vilafria Member+

    Jun 2, 2005
    You're right, and I gotta say Neto impressed me in this last game.
     
  16. Aveirenses

    Aveirenses Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Guardiolunya
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Lahm? Ramos? Chiellini? Alba? I think you're putting him on a really high pedestal this way. Yes, Pepe had a good tournament in 2012. What does this have to do with 2013 or 2014?
     
  17. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    .....are those centrebacks for their national teams? and Pepe was better than Chiellini easily. Just ask Spain who was a lot harder to break through against.
     
  18. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    LOL pepe was amazing at euro and some of those players u mention aren't cb bud
    Cb is a completely different position

    But yet again I've known your a joke for a while
    With zero football knowledge .
     
  19. portugal#1

    portugal#1 Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Pepe was a monster in defense for Portugal during the Euro, that can't be denied. That was quite possibly the best football I have ever seen him play.
     
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  20. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    I'd agree, i think people are forgetting what happened at the Euros, we lost to Spain in a semi final shoot out and were the only team to really take it to Spain. If we had a bit more quality on the bench to call upon we may have won it in normal time
     
  21. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    No kidding heck even if postiga played instead of almeida things could have been different
    (Almeida messed up every attack and postiga is a good Pen kicker )

    But Avs prolly only caught glimpses of euro matches during breaks between board meetings at whatever fortune 100 company he is CEO
     
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  22. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    Eder can't back from injury quick enough, Almeida surprises me every time he plays and not in a good way.
     
  23. Aveirenses

    Aveirenses Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Guardiolunya
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I was talking about defenders not CB in specific.

    Ja sabes ha tanto tempo, mas ainda assim nao podes resistir de servir-nos todos com 'uma das tuas.' Obrigado meninho pelo entretenimento, mas espero que algum dia cresces para seres homem em vez de um puro miudo chatissimo.
     
  24. Aveirenses

    Aveirenses Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Guardiolunya
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I was speaking exclusively in regards to defenders, not specific position. Also, Ramos was in the centre for Spain, of the ones I had listed only Lahm and Alba were played out-wide, but everyone knows Lahm can play in the centre just as well as he can out on the flank. And I would personally have taken even Daniel Agger into our team before Pepe. He had a good tournament, I am not denying that (thick skin maybe prevents people from actually reading what I say in its entirety but what do I expect when you still have life-devoted trolls around here?), but there needs to be a lot more than EURO 2012 performance that goes into deciding whether someone makes the grade for 2014, and I hope Paulo Bento is more aware of that then the typical forum-goer here. (What's next? Eusebio up front? He was EXCELLENT in 1966!"

    Pepe had a few good games, yes, but that's not enough to merit entrance for World Cup 2014, which is what the debate is, not whether there are better CBs in the world (which there are). You would think after JVP's behavior in World Cup 2002, you wouldn't need to argue as to why temperamental characters might not be our best assets, but it runs deeper than this. He's a clumsy, temperamental Ricardo Carvalho, why do we really want a player like that? His best attribute, his aggression, is also his worst. He played his part in the tournaments we called him for, but we should not be dependent on him for any spot on the team, nevermind if it's in CB or DMC like he has played before.
     
  25. Aveirenses

    Aveirenses Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Guardiolunya
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I was hoping you would be gone already. :)

    What's wrong, unemployment line too long?
     

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