David Beckham has announced he is to retire from football.

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by MLS1FAN, May 16, 2013.

  1. trevor_daniles

    Aug 19, 2007
    Not really made it a point. He was heading back to the bench and Beckham just happened to be there. If Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan were there, he'd do the same thing. Now if you told me he sprinted across the court to shake his hand, then he'd be going out of his way and you'd be on to something.
     
  2. trevor_daniles

    Aug 19, 2007
    You're 100% right with this. I don't see how this could not happen in Miami. I would say it's a lock. Interesting article about Orlando and Miami coming in at the same time which is what i thought would happen:

    http://www.scoringthird.com/2013/06/orlando-and-miami-in-mls-for-2016.html
     
  3. DemmahoM

    DemmahoM Member

    Apr 1, 2005
    New Haven CT
    Club:
    --other--
    Yeah, it always does seem that Florida franchises enter in pairs when leagues expand.

    Panthers-Lightning (NHL)
    Magic-Heat (NBA)
    Orlando-Miami (MLS?)
     
  4. guamster

    guamster Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Winnetka, CA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Guam
    Close but not the same year.

    NBA Expansion
    1988: Charlotte and Miami
    1989: Orlando and Minnesota
     
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  5. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I have said many times on BigSoccer that I thought that after the league gets to 20 that new expansion markets should have "partners" that emphasize rivalries that create excitement and interest for/in the team.

    Miami/Orlando is logical. (Tampa would have been a good partner for one of these, two, but they seem way behind in terms of ownership and MLS-size stadium.) Other partners would be like Atlanta-Charlotte or Atlanta-Nashville and Charlotte-Raleigh, Edmonton-Calgary and Cleveland-Detroit.

    There are also some expansion candidates with built-in natural rivals already in MLS like St. Louis (KC and Chicago), Baltimore (DC and Philly), and Ottawa (Toronto and Montreal) and Sacramento (San Jose).

    Obviously not all of these markets are getting MLS teams any time soon (or ever, in some cases), but when MLS expands I think geographic rivalries should be a big part of the consideration after ownership group, stadium and market size.

    Admittedly, this would make it tougher for expansion for a place like Phoenix, which I think could be a good MLS market (if a stadium has a roof) or Minneapolis and I wouldn't rule them out just because they lack a geographic rival. But emphasizing rivalries should be a point going forward for MLS expansion.
     
  6. DemmahoM

    DemmahoM Member

    Apr 1, 2005
    New Haven CT
    Club:
    --other--
    True, but remember the NBA only wanted one franchise in Florida. but when both cities made successful pitches, the NBA decided to award two franchises in Florida.

    It was a masterstroke by the NBA IMO. Both teams turned out to be great franchises and very marketable within a few years after their entry.

    Edit: Actually, looking back the Heat were going nowhere until Pat Riley jumped ship from NY (still hate him for that) and turned them into a model franchise. Nonetheless, having a franchise in Miami definitely boosted the NBA.
     
  7. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    Ugh--FIU with the fake turf and the bad attendance that drove Miami FC to Lockhart?

    At least Sun Life is more centrally located to get both Miami and Fort Lauderdale. And it's grass, so your future DPs in the mold of Keane and Henry will be willing to play on it.

    Not a great choice of venue, either way.
     
  8. yellowbismark

    yellowbismark Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    The Florida Panthers came in with Anaheim too.
     
  9. MLS1FAN

    MLS1FAN Member+

    May 11, 2004
    Miami Beach,FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Hey don't forget that San Antonio would also be a built-in natural rivalry with Houston and possibly Dallas too.
     
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  10. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Yeah, I meant to include San Antonio and just forgot to add it. But I agree that San Antonio would be a good market from a rivalries perspective.

    And to take that a step further and go back to my original premise, I think the demographics in Austin would make it a good MLS market and create several obvious geographical rivalries.

    Austin's not a Top 10 market or anything but it's one of the biggest in the US (1.83 mill, 33rd largest) without a major league sport and I bet with a stadium in the right part of town it would draw very well.
     
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  11. guamster

    guamster Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Winnetka, CA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Guam
    Source
     
  12. MLS1FAN

    MLS1FAN Member+

    May 11, 2004
    Miami Beach,FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mrs Beckham, she's a red carpet premier kind of girl who's always looking for the spotlight. London, Paris, Monaco, Milan, Rome, Madrid, New York, Los Angeles and Miami are all her posh personal play ground.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. MLS1FAN

    MLS1FAN Member+

    May 11, 2004
    Miami Beach,FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just saw a news report on WPLG Local 10 here in South Florida, they were talking about LeBron James and David Beckham shaking hands at last night Heat game and how the two are the biggest and most recognized sports stars on the planet. Also they stated that Miami-Dade Mayor spoke to the Miami-Dade County Council about the meeting he had with David Beckham regarding bringing an MLS team to Miami, and Mayor Carlos Gimenez said he's expecting an decision from Beckhan in about two weeks. So it seems this thing is on the fast track, and San Antonio, Atlanta or Miami will know if they have a new expansion MLS team in about two weeks. I have a feeling that Mr. Garber will soon have to address further expansion beyond New York City FC, but more than likely expansion after NYCFC will not happen until 2016.

    http://www.local10.com/sports/is-ml...ida/-/1717082/20420338/-/8waytvz/-/index.html
     
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  14. MLS1FAN

    MLS1FAN Member+

    May 11, 2004
    Miami Beach,FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This simple handshake is so hyped by the local media...

    [​IMG]
     
  15. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Can someone explain to me why everyone thinks David Beckham has to live in Miami in order to invest in a team there?

    Pretty sure he can invest in a Miami team from London, LA, Paris, or wherever he chooses to live.
     
  16. trevor_daniles

    Aug 19, 2007
    He becomes a local investor and therefore, it's seen as goodwill. A local investor is good for the community. Just ask red bulls owners
     
  17. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    All I'm saying is if I'm David Beckham and I've got my team of super-smart advisors behind me I'm going to invest in the MLS team that makes the most business sense.

    If thats Miami, then fine.

    But if its San Antonio, Atlanta, Orlando, St. Louis, Minnesota, etc. then thats what I'm going to do.

    You don't have to live where your team is, especially if you have a private jet on standby 24/7
     
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  18. The 92nd Fish

    The 92nd Fish Member

    Jan 16, 2007
    London, England
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Becks has already said that he's going to be living back in England because the family has been away for too long and they like the idea of being back around family etc. Needless to say he's not moving to where he invests, so you're barking up entirely the wrong tree. Yes Miami has much more of an 'it' factor than San Antonio but this isn't the only option. Hell Las Vegas has more 'it' factor than Miami and has been sniffing around an MLS franchise if we were basing it entirely on 'it' factor than Vegas would be in the running (...its not as far as I'm aware).
     
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just want to remind everyone that Lebron is a part owner of Liverpool FC.
     
  20. MLS1FAN

    MLS1FAN Member+

    May 11, 2004
    Miami Beach,FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With all the Miami talk recently, Orlando is feeling the pressure and has decided to turning up the heat...

    Soccer By Ives
    Big step forward. http://bit.ly/17p2Gwy

    Orlando City Soccer Club hire expansion expert to help push for place in Major League Soccer (MLS).

    Do you think this move helps the Lions to solidify a spot for an MLS franchise.

    [​IMG]ORLANDO, Fla.— Brett Lashbrook, who previously served as special assistant to Major League Soccer (MLS) Commissioner Don Garber, has officially joined the Orlando City SC front office, the club announced Wednesday. Lashbrook spent the last seven years at MLS’ headquarters in New York City, working closely alongside Garber and MLS President Mark Abbott. Notably, Lashbrook was heavily involved with MLS’ recently completed New York City expansion project, including negotiation and planning for construction of a proposed new soccer stadium.
    Lashbrook will officially join the Orlando front office on June 10. His primary duties will be to assist Orlando City’s ownership group in finalizing plans for a new soccer stadium and negotiating a MLS expansion agreement, as the Lions pursue their goal of bringing MLS to Central Florida by 2015.
     
  21. MLS1FAN

    MLS1FAN Member+

    May 11, 2004
    Miami Beach,FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS Exec: “Multiple teams in Southeast could be very successful”


    http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/...-teams-in-southeast-could-be-very-successful/

    This story just keeps gaining momentum.
    With David Beckham recently seen loitering with intent in Miami, and Orlando City hiring MLS Commissioner Don Garber’s ‘special assistant’ to their front office, Florida is getting serious about bringing MLS back to the Sunshine State.
    We all knew this was coming, with Orlando City’s huge amounts of work and Beckham meeting billionaire’s court side at Heat games, the writing has been on the wall for a while. But we’ve heard it all before.
    However now it seems to be different, MLS returning to Florida for the first time since 2001 could be on the cards.
    And this morning a new story popped up in the South Florida Sun Sentinel, as Major League Soccer’s executive vice president of communications Dan Courtemanche, revealed the league is making plans for expansion in the Southeast.
    We’re going to start to formulate our plan for the future and potential growth for beyond 20 teams. We certainly believe that an MLS team could be very successful in both South Florida and Central Florida.
    (More: MLS Expansion in Florida set for 2016?)
    Courtemanche went on to reveal how impressed the league is that Miami ranks inside the top 10 in TV viewer ratings for MLS games.
    That’s including the fact that we have 16 teams in the United States. That’s pretty strong for a market that doesn’t have an MLS team. We eventually want to have a team in the Southeast. It provides geographical balance, and we also think a team, or potentially multiple teams, in the Southeast could be very successful.
     
  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So Beckham has retired and he won't ever play again? Not even in those Old Glory games?
     
  23. Stereolab

    Stereolab BigSoccer Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Err... ratings as low as they are, the difference between being a top-10 market and a top-20 market is probably like two extra guys in a bar.
     
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  24. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Seems like MLS likes the Orlando City and Beckham FC tandem.

    We could have worse.
     
  25. MLS1FAN

    MLS1FAN Member+

    May 11, 2004
    Miami Beach,FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS Expansion: Ranking The Hopefuls

    http://wvhooligan.com/2013/06/12/16805/mls-expansion-ranking-the-hopefuls/

    [​IMG]
    Power Rankings.
    1. Orlando, Florida (population 2.2 million) - Ever since the day that the Austin Aztex were moved to Central Florida, the thought of this being a MLS town has been a pretty good one. Orlando City SC has made their voices heard time and time again about how they want to be a MLS market. They’ve brought in good numbers for their USL team, earned a ton of local support, got a good and solid fan base set up and there is even an academy team already built in. They didn’t get the state money a short while ago but that hasn’t slowed down their goals of becoming a MLS market.
    Things going for them: Support, fan base, academy, ownership with decent-sized pockets
    Things not going for them: Stadium
    2. San Antonio (population 2.2 million) - Another smaller market that just makes sense. The NASL’s Scorpions have become a big hit in the Alamo City and given their stadium plans in place, they will eventually have a venue that is MLS worthy. The issue with this market is that they’ve burned MLS before. Back in 2005, the city wanted a team, had good discussions with the league about playing at the Alamo Dome but then things quickly fell apart. Thankfully the Scorpions have shown that they could be a big deal if they were in MLS. Also, the addition of this city would add to the Texas Derby. MLS loves their rivalries so adding another one club to the mix would certainly spark some things.
    Things going for them: Support, fan base, stadium that can expand, logical addition to rival Houston and Dallas
    Things not going for them: Questions about ownership not having deep enough pockets, small TV market
    3. Miami/Fort Lauderdale (population 5.6 million) - We all know the history here. This is a weird sports market but if you can get all the stars to align it will work. But that is a whole lotta ifs. But now David Beckham enters the picture with Marcelo Claure. That is some star power and deep pockets, not to mention I see a small chance of someone like LeBron James getting involved here on this as well. Still, the market is extremely tough to enter and MLS knows it. They can’t go in Miami alone without Orlando, Tampa, or Atlanta.
    Things going for them: Deeeeep pockets for the owners, fan base (if they work with the NASL’s Strikers), good TV market
    Things not going for them: Stadium, full support of locals still iffy, history
    4. Minneapolis (population 3.3 million) - To be fair this one is a bit of a dark horse for the next round in my books. They’d be a great addition for Chicago to have a rivalry with that is much closer than their current rivals. The fan base is very strong in this market for when it comes to sports. Not to mention that the owners of the NFL’s Vikings have already been in talks with MLS and would love to enter at some point. The NASL team there is also doing well and if they got a solid enough owner to guide a team it would work. Let’s also not forget that the league put their National Sales Center in Minnesota.
    Things going for them: Pretty deep pockets for their potential owners, fan base
    Thing not going for them: Playing at a NFL venue, crowded sports market
    5. St. Louis (population 2.8 million) - This city always stands out as a must-have for MLS to expand into at some point. The league knows it and eventually someone in St. Louis will be wise enough to cash in on it. We know about the amount of talent that has come out of the Gateway City and into the league, not to mention the amazing youth participation in the sport here. Lastly, it would be a natural rival for Sporting KC to finally have.
    Things going for them: History, support would like be there
    Things not going for them: No ownership currently involved, no stadium plans
    6. Atlanta (population 5.5 million) - Here is another Southeast city that has stated their desires to play. Arthur Blank has had talks with MLS before about a team and he wants to eventually get Atlanta there. This one reminds me a lot of Minneapolis though, in that, if it ever happens they will be playing at a NFL venue. That’s a no bueno in my book. And like Miami, the fans support there is really questionable. They love the game but will they be able to deal with some losing season that will likely come for an expansion team? Tough to tell at this point.
    Things going for them: Decent support for their NASL side at the moment, big TV market
    Things not going for them: Playing in a NFL venue, crowded sports market, support of the locals
    7. Raleigh, NC (population 2 million – this includes Durham) - I’ve gone back and forth on where MLS should go if they went into North Carolina. For the longest time I believed that Charlotte would be a natural fit as it is a large city that has some professional sports experience. But at the end of the day, the Raleigh area seems like a better fit to me thanks to the Carolina RailHawks of the NASL. They draw well at their stadium, and if they got the right owners involved it would certainly work. MLS is always going to be looking for a market to be another Portland or Seattle, and well, this is the East coast version of Portland in my book. Build it and they would come.
    Things going for them: Good fan support, could be a good bridge between D.C. United and other Southeast teams
    Things not going for them: An owner with deeper pockets, bigger stadium
    8. Indianapolis (population 1.8 million) - The more I read about the NASL’s newest club Indy Eleven, the more I look at this market and go, “why the hell not?”. The club there already has 3,000 season ticket deposits before they have even hired a technical staff or played a second on the field. They have some serious soccer loving people in the area and with former Chicago Fire president Peter Wilt at the helm, it would certainly work. Also, this would serve as a lovely bridge between Chicago and Columbus.
    Things going for them: Strong local support, stadium plans in the works
    Things not going for them: An owner with deep pockets, TV market not very large
    9. Tampa (population 2.4 million) - Deep down I want Tampa back in MLS. I seriously do. I was a huge supporter of the Mutiny back in the day and always felt that they deserved better. Thankfully the market is improving with the USL side and the NASL side. Yes, they have two there. The Rowdies in the NASL seem supported well enough with about 3,000 average fans in a baseball stadium.
    Things going for them: History (at least with the Rowdies), decent support
    Things not going for them: An owner with deep pockets, stadium deal (and stadium in a good location)
    10. Sacramento (population 1.9 million) - Something is brewing in this town. They saved their NBA team and they are slowly making some momentum on their USL team that will start up in 2014. Some how their local government is wanting to be heavily involved in potentially bringing a team to MLS down the road. That is a good thing. They’re a long shot but don’t sleep on this town.
    Things going for them: Local support
    Things not going for them: Stadium not built, fan base still a wait and see, a deep pocketed owner
    Others worth mentioning: San Diego, Detroit, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Pittsburgh
     

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