Transfers & Rumors Discussion Thread Vol. XVIII - FIFA mode on the Pepstation

Rubbish. Stupid rumors like this crop up all the time. Bazi basically summed up the possibilities with "we are not a selling club."

Personally I see Bastian and Phillip playing at Bayern until they are ready to retire.

 

Jupp has teased retirement a few times now. Every player on this team knows this. I doubt he will convince anyone in the core of the team to leave for Madrid. He would be their coach for the first season and then they are stuck at Madrid.

A volatile, high pressure environment, a place Robben has probably warned them all about. Telling them the horror stories of how easy it is to fall out of favor to the next big name.

Im sorry I just dont see the logic in this, otherwise this is a valid question and concern. But not this team, they know they're in the best place for the coming years.

 

lol Jupp had his bed made at Bayern. I expect Pep to kick his ass if we ever encounter him at Madrid.

 

Yeah to be honest I agree 100%, particularly about Schweinsteiger and Lahm. I can see why the guy brought them up, as they could conceivably want to look for a new challenge after a season like this, but I think the pair of them will see it more as an opportunity to build a legacy at Bayern.
As for the actual post, I know it seems a bit far-fetched, but I just thought it would be interesting to bring up, since I know that kind of thing does happen sometimes.

 

Kroos should be given to BvB. The team could have been eliminated by juve

 

I think Schweinsteiger will leave in a few years to try out England or Italy but certainly not now when he's the linchpin to what hopefully could be a few seasons of European dominance. I do feel that Lahm will probably retire here.

 

There's no reason at all to move arguably the best DM in the world and put him as a CB where he is good but nowhere near as good as his DM position. I haven't seen him play every week no doubt, but he's not been one of the best CBs in the world when he's played that position when he was at his previous club.

Plus, I don't see why we should shun both our German CBs who have been already very good at their level.

Why the fock are we even discussing moving a player that is better in the position he's played this season than the one he would be moved to? If Bayern wants to find a spot for each player, maybe they should have waited a year or two for Goetze, now we are looking into moving players in different positions because winning the treble obviously shows these guys can't play in their positions. It's just silly.

 

What the hell are you talking about dude?

 

As do I. While Heynckes deserves a lot of credit for what he's done, we need to be realistic here. Our team is one of the most talented teams of all time. It's a shame they shit the bed last year, as they already would be on the books for 2 CLs in a row.

 

I suspect he"s saying that we would have crashed had we continued with Kroos instead of Robben. I personally wouldn't go that far, but imo the only time since his injury that we have really missed him was vs BVB in the final.

Other than the final, Müll/Rob was a better combo.

 

Assuming that they didn't slouch back into complacency after a CL win. I can't imagine them having the focus and desire they showed this season without also imagining the loss to Chelsea.

Humans learn more from failure than they do from success. Take away the failure and you also take away the lessons learned from it.

 

You realize that it's kind of impossible to say what would have been the better combo since one player was injured, right?

Kroos was great in both the 11/12 and 12/13 CL campaign. I strongly disagree with assumptions based on bad 15 minutes in a game against Juventus where the guest team was under pressure after Alaba's 1st minute goal.

Some players are better suited than others for certain oppositions. That's nothing new or breathtaking.

I thought we missed Toni Kroos a lot in the Juventus 2nd leg game where we were dominated almost the entire first half and Schweinsteiger struggled to keep us in possession for example.

 

We really missed him in the second half of the CL final as well. It just so happened that the counter attacking threat of Robben, Ribery, and Mueller was perfectly suited to Barcelona. I still think our best line-up would have been Mueller at CF and Kroos as CAM.

 

Here we go. Big club syndrom kicking in again. Must be silly season.

Thoughts:

• Sure as hell is not promising that Pep's first transfer request was friggin Neymar
• Heynckes to Madrid would be terrible. I still kinda wish we would have extended with him but best case he takes over some national team or retires. Would hate to face him and what better send off can you ask for?
• Don't buy Lewa. Yes even if it means he goes abroad. Force BVB to get serious with their wages or sell him to whatever shitty rich management will pay for him in x other league. Yes even if we sell Gomez.
• Don't sell Kroos. Severely underrated and pivotal in our form most of the season. Short memories..
• Don't sell or loan Shaqiri, but sure as hell don't but any more AMs.
• Experiment with Mueller at striker
• Respect Tymo thanks for the dedicated service to the club!
• Schalke can have Rafinha
• Don't inflate the squad too much. We had an almost perfect balance of competitiveness and depth this term and I can see the squad getting bloated quick.

 

Last year Juup got us to the finals with just 12 serviceable players.

First 11 and Muller as sub. behind those what we have were Petersen, Usami, Olic Rafinha etc I can hardly call that team most talented

Alaba just starting as LB for first time, unrefined Gustavo, Boateng while Robben, Schweini injured for most of it. Having to start Contento and Tymo as CB in a CL final.

Juup surely pulled a feat getting us to that final

 

I'm against anything that is aimed at reducing the depth in the squad at Bayern. So no loan, or sell of any of the mentioned players

 

Fair point. I have to say though that we also had the advantage of playing a decimated Barca, and being able to play on the counter against Juve.

And please don't misconstrue what I am saying as being anti-Kroos. He's my favourite player on the team and I do believe he will be a very important player for us in the future, even moreso than now.

 

How do you mean by a decimated Barcelona?

Valdez, Alves, Alba, Pique, Busquets, Xavi, Messi, Iniesta, Villa, Sanchez, Fabregas doesnt look decimated to me

 

I would've sworn more Barca players were missing.

 

Apart from Puyol, who was Barcelona missing? Messi didn't play in the second leg but he did in the first (even if he shouldn't have).

 

Puyol, Mascherano, 1/2 Messi and Abidal.

 

Abidal hardly played this season just like Bayern missing Badstuber. (Abidal was on the bench in the 4-0 in Munich)
Bayern was missing super regular like Kroos, Mandzukic(1st leg).

 

Seriously!

Pro tip to Barcelona, get a deeper squad!

 

It's a great feat to get to the finals 2 years in a row. But look at our squad! Look at last years starting 11. Van Gaal took Demichelis, Van Buyten, 1st year Badstuber and Muller, Van Bommel, Olic, Butt to the Champions' League final ffs. Meaning Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Ribery, and Robben were so good that they were able to mitigate the effects of such an untalented squad. Between 2009 and 2013, Jupp had the additions of Neuer, Gustavo, Boateng, Dante, Mandzukic, Shaqiri, Martinez, and a formerly loaned out and more developed Alaba to play with. Jupp is good, but he is no Hitzfeld. And if Pep is anywhere near as good as I think he is, I expect Bayern to destroy the competition in the coming years. Anything short of that is failure for this squad.

 

Dude Liverpool got the final a few years ago and that team was the definition of fvcking average. Seriously, I'm not buying that Jupp had some magical run last year because Bayern even last year despite depth, had probably the 2nd best team in the world after Barca. Other than United or Madrid at some points, no team really have world class depth. Just because we have the best depth we have ever had, doesn't mean our depth last year was bad. We had Muller, Olic, Tymoschuk, Rafinha, Van Buyten and Contento. I'm sorry but that's a pretty solid depth right there.