News: NYCFC is Official for 2015: MCFC and NY Yankees as co-owners

In my magazine editing days, I'd almost always fix that. The exception? Lamar Hunt. Lamar Hunt would say "the MLS" and who was I to correct him. Other than that, yeah - it drives me nuts.

 

Honestly I was being sarcastic. I could care less.

I'm hoping this ownership group is successful and this team does well.

 

Fair enough. I hope the succeed as a business. On the field, not so much.

 

I think the announcement of New York City Football Club is absolutely fantastic.

I've always supported the idea of foreign investment in the MLS instead of the Premier League. The United States has the biggest sports market in the World, and soccer has the potential to become one of the most popular spectator sports in that country. Nothing should prevent the MLS from competing with other soccer leagues from around the World, in my opinion.

Of course, I don't expect the MLS to overtake the likes of the MLB, NBA and NFL; neither do I wish for that to actually happen, since I quite enjoy America's unique sporting culture, and part of me hopes the status quo remains unchanged. Nevertheless, the MLS has huge potential and can grow to become much, much larger than what it currently is.

Therefore, I don't think NYC FC should be seen as an offshoot of Manchester City Football Club. It certainly wouldn't surprise me if the New York team becomes a bigger brand -- and therefore, more popular -- than its sister club across the Atlantic. Both clubs are, indeed, part of the same City 'family', and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's evidently clear that the associates and owners of Manchester City FC were always interested in building a global network of at least two football clubs that would belong to the same 'City' brand/organization. It's a very smart move, on their part.

Good luck, NYC FC!

 

He made it VERY CLEAR in this video that this will be a completely independent team with access to Man City resources. The hell is the issue, Borough Boys? #sellouts

 

Promising start in New York City, except for the FC
Soccer America

 

Well their current place holding website doesn't help...That being said, yes the Borough Boys should switch their support to this team, it's given them everything they ever asked for. Instead they're sticking in their 1970/80s timewarp believing that the jokers running the Cosmos are going to deliver a better team in the long run, simply based on the name. When the actuality is the Cosmos probably won't even exist in '15 when NYCFC takes to the field.

 

Not to mention the fact that New York Red Bulls are more likely to play a competitive game in New York City before the New York Cosmos do. Which, if you recall, was the #1, 2, and 3 complaints the BB had about the MetroBulls.

 

Paul Gardner is an absolute blast in person. He is exactly the same as his pontificating would suggest. He's a lot of fun, but he's got an agenda a mile wide and he makes no bones about it.

 

At least by one.

 

Heh. So true. I almost want to e-mail him this pic so he'd get a heart attack...

 

They do owe us an apology don't they...

And not just Red Bull New York fans but all the folks on this site (and others) who bought into the claptrap that you can't be a true New York team unless you're playing within the 5 boroughs. How many out-of-towners reading this now fell for that nonsense or even continue to do so (we know who you are, lol).

So now they'll be on Long Island cheering a fake team with an expropriated name explaining the new reasons they weren't into Metro/Red Bull/MLS over all these years.

 

A question for New Yorkers who have been intensely following this:

Do you guys know of some alternate sights OUTSIDE of Queens where this SSS can get built if this Flushing Meadows Park plan goes bust? Brooklyn, for instance?

 

I seriously doubt too many of the Borough Boys will actually attend NASL games. Most will continue to congregate in local pups to watch EPL soccer on Saturdays and complain about how bush league MLS is over a pint.

 

Watching those NY Times videos, you have to say that these guys are saying all of the right things. Kind of polar opposite of what Chivas USA said when they came into the league, and even a far cry from what the Barcelona execs were saying when they were flirting with putting a team in Miami few years back.

 

. . . let me help you with that, at least as far as this forum is concerned.

 

I stopped following this thread a couple of days ago, are people really saying this?

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

The Cosmos had every opportunity to get their crap in order and buy into MLS. They jerked around with a combination of hubris and stupidity.

 

Lawlz. He just kept going. . .

 

No, no place good anyhow.

Downtown certainly isn't moving s#it for ANOTHER sporting venue.

Not enough space in Coney island unless you wanna tear down Nathan's, plus I think there are other plans for what little is there.

Staten island should have space, but uh... none near easily accessible Public Transportation. (no point in building anything there)

manhattan plans are a bust unless pier 4 becomes available after all.

and the bronx... I can't think of anywhere. Also if its not in the south part of the boogie down you might risk being MORE inconvenient to travel to by train tan RBA, particularly to bklyn and Queens.

Queens has the flushing mess you probably know something about but it also has the aqueduct racing track, which has a good deal of space for a new stadium and is right by a train station connected to brooklyn.

If I were them I'd be trying there rather than potentially aggravating some folks by building in a park. As it stands RBA is more accessible from brooklyn than YS is, any links to the bronx passes what could be used to get to Harrison, probably quicker.

Building something closer to the brooklyn system is a great way of putting my favorite club at major disadvantage in NYC overall. Even flushing has to compete in terms of convenience.

just my perspective. BTW as a NYRB fan for life I simply look at New Yorker Convenient Football Clubs stadium conundrum and snicker a bit.

 

Oh for the love of God. That Cosmos name is like fricking herpes. I wish it were possible for someone to buy intellectual property and then burn it and launch the ashes into the sun; it would be worth it to have the world rid of the name and faux nostalgia once and for all.

I promise you all, if I win a $200m lottery someday, I'll buy the rights to the name and immediately proceed to do anything possible to accomplish the above, if it means we can all be done with listening to people piss and moan about an actual expansion franchise and pine for an imaginary one.

 

https://twitter.com/MCFC/status/338422415782707203/photo/1

Apparently at the stadium today...

As a New York Red Bulls fan I obviously can't throw branding stones and I'm not seeing it as an insurmountable issue but people are really fooling themselves if they think this club won't be seen as Man City USA in this town. Sister clubs...parent club...whatever...unless they rethink name/uniform color/firewall the connection will be unavoidable. Again not a deal breaker as far as building a fanbase in the metro area but a hurdle no doubt.

Despite being an opponent of NY2 I've said that the small fortune MLS has spent on Garber's campaign was money well spent and the owners were likely pleased with Garber's efforts win or lose.

I'm not so sure that's the case anymore.

Garber talked for years as if the ownership question was a non-issue, he'd have to beat people (very rich people) off with sticks fighting to purchase this club. Well Mansour/Man City wouldn't necessarily be the group you'd expect to win in that kind of scenario they appear more like a fallback. What happened to everyone else? Did they ever exist? If I were an owner I'd like to know (and maybe they already do).

Putting all your eggs in the FMCP stadium plan and hinging the initiative on getting that stadium (until they moved the goalposts) could also be questioned. Building in the middle of a major city park was always going to be a crapshoot and no one should have seen it differently certainly not Don Garber born in Queens living now in Montclair.

So the sky blues...in a baseball park...Yankee Stadium (or hopefully Citi Field)...for how long? Again the pros may ultimately outweigh the cons and this NY2 may produce the positives the initiative envisioned but it hasn't exactly gone according to script has it, lol.

 

I´m sure NYC will have a stadium of their own as soon as possible, money will talk in the end..It usually does, as for other suitable bidders for the expansion there was none I think.
Must have been a relief for Don G to simple pocket the money and leave City/Yankees to do the political fighting

 

well, as a nyrb fan you also can appreciate that it's possible to root for a team that's less than perfectly branded.
i agree on the rest of what you say, concerning garber. and i hope that in future we'd see less of the knee jerk reactions on big soccer that 'the league wouldn't be saying xxx unless everything was lined up already...' fact is, there weren't lines of very rich people outside the door.
i do think, however, that generating talk around the ny2 project was not a bad idea, provided we see it as being all it was. but it did give notice and create awareness. yankees and mcfc didn't fall off their chairs when they were approached, as they already knew about the idea. imo that helped. and i don't mind the makeup of the i/o group. in fact i feel a certain admiration for whoever came up with the idea at some mls brainstorming session.
i disagree about citifield as home venue, not because i mind the location, but because the only time i saw a soccer game from there on tv the configuration was awful. iirc the outfield wall was along one sideline and the field dimension was good at most for eight on eight. pitiful, tbh. if that's where nyfc plays, it'll be hard on my eyeballs...

 

That's what Peppe Pinton did for years, people still circle-jerked about it.