News: U.S. Open Cup 3rd Round Pairings Announced, NY @ RBA

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  1. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    HEAD. CASE.
     
  2. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. theENFORCER

    theENFORCER Member

    Apr 10, 2010
    NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully the squad can do some scouting on the opponent. I remember last year the team we lost to had some speedy wingers who torched us which is embarrassing really.

    Our depth is the best it's been in years so there should be no excuse..
    -------Espindola--Akpan
    Lade--Christensen--Alexander--Sam or Bover
    Kimura--Pearce--Diago--Barklage
    ----------Meara/Hartman/17yr old

    -Moreno as a half time sub for Espindola. I would like Espindola to get a rest this Sunday vs Columbus
    -Bover/Sam in for Sam/Bover
    -Sub in for Alexander

    Our offense will be a problem as none of the guys up front will have any cohesion with eachother. Might not be a bad idea to start Sam as a forward as well next to a high work rate guy like Akpan.
     
  4. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Potential injury concerns:

    I haven't seen any reports of Christianson returning to training after his foot injury, which seemed serious at the time.

    Akpan was taken out of training with a hamstring injury last week, they have not released his status yet.

    Bover has a lower back strain from training that has kept him off the field.

    Moreno is also currently with the US U-20's and won't be available in time.
     
  5. Arsenalkid700

    Arsenalkid700 Member

    Aug 9, 2011
    New York City
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Oh, I think you and Deuteriumoxide got me wrong. I mean, I don't think we will be the best or even top 3 in Soccer in this century at least (meh, who knows?) but I do believe 100% that the Red Bulls can have one of the best soccer Academies in the world, maybe even top 3 (with Arsenal of course :) ).

    What I meant though was that when people talk about Barcelona's Academy they talk about it as if every player in that Academy has a 90% chance of playing for the Barcelona first-team and that every youngster will be a world-class one. That is technically wrong, many Barca youngsters have moved on and now it seems that more and more are moving out each season but that will never happen here in New York. We will never produce a starting 11 in MLS in which all the 11 players (well, maybe 8 to be realistic) will be from our Academy.

    Look at Arsenal FC, our Academy is considered the best in England by many but I can confidently say that out of the current 2012-13 U21 batch that only 3 players have a chance (Serge Gnabry, Chuba Akpom, and Hector Bellerin). Hell, the 2009 FA Youth Cup winning Arsenal side has only produced 1 actually regular for Arsenal. The rest have either left or are hanging on by a thread.

    That is what I meant.

    tl;dr: Basically, The New York Red Bulls can have the top 3 Academy in the world but it will never do a "Barcelona" and have all Academy players as first-team world class guys.
     
  6. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Also, has there been any mention whatsoever about the game being streamed or aired on MSG? I have a tough time getting to weekday games.
     
  7. Arsenalkid700

    Arsenalkid700 Member

    Aug 9, 2011
    New York City
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    thecup.us have streams available on their sites.
     
    iced1776 repped this.
  8. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully the spirit of Backe will stay away and not jinx the Open Cup matches....
     
  9. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spirit of (insert name here) you mean. We've never won anything. :(
     
  10. Arsenalkid700

    Arsenalkid700 Member

    Aug 9, 2011
    New York City
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Kyle Bartley.
     
  11. j1mbr0wn

    j1mbr0wn Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Newark, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So could I, but I can assure you Red Bull would not want to hire me as a midfielder.
     
  12. GMangs

    GMangs Red Card

    Apr 21, 2012
    NJ
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Better just put a decent team on the field. No reason we can't win the Cup if we field decent teams. Cup, shield, league? I have faith.
     
  13. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    To be honest I'd expect mostly our bench and some reserve players with some starters sprinkled in. Petke has already confirmed Digao will play, and its a safe bet that anybody who is over 30 or injury prone will not play. For this round at least that should be enough, we're playing a PDL on our own pristine grass surface, zero excuses for even the very back end of our roster not to get the job done in this situation.
     
  14. GMangs

    GMangs Red Card

    Apr 21, 2012
    NJ
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    When I say decent team, I mean a team that is coming out to compete. I don't expect Henry or that type, unless it was a sub later on for reasons that shouldn't even happen. It shouldn't be all reserve guys.
     
  15. Slim_Tim501

    Slim_Tim501 Member

    May 19, 2010
    North Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any word on who the keeper will be?
     
  16. j1mbr0wn

    j1mbr0wn Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Newark, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you are both right (bench playing, decent team.) Which is a first ever for this club!!

    Anyway, I'll be there in person, so if they screw it up, they will get an earful!
     
  17. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Okay guys, just chill. Maybe I do have a soft spot for him. But despite injuries and a knucklehead past, he is very talented. Sparing you your bona fides, I'd venture to guess there aren't many players his age outside of MLS who have more potential. Someone could well take a flier on him. Give him some reserve matches and see if he can settle. And that's all I mean. I'm not saying he should be starting for the Red Bulls tomorrow.
     
  18. GMangs

    GMangs Red Card

    Apr 21, 2012
    NJ
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Saying he should have been starting for them for a while now?
     
  19. j1mbr0wn

    j1mbr0wn Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Newark, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyway, back to the game next week, I think we're going to be able to put a solid team from the bench on and still dominate. Pearce leading the centerbacks, Juninho the midfield, Lade, Barklage, Akpan, and if we throw in either Meara or Hartman, we have 6 MLS starters on the field. I'm hoping we don't put any of the starting 11 out there, because I think we have enough depth and reserve talent to get the job done anyway.

    I don't expect to ride this team to the cup final either. At this stage, it makes sense. But, as we progress, we need to take it serious and put an appropriately strong team out there for each match. Notice the word appropriately, which is why I posted we can use bench and reserves for the PDL boys.
     
  20. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Akpan is out until the Vancouver game
     
  21. j1mbr0wn

    j1mbr0wn Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Newark, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I just read that. Shame. Maybe Peggy can start by then, if he's held back Sunday against Columbus.
     
  22. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Bummer about Akpan, he's been tearing up reserve sides so he could have been useful in these cup games. Petke originally said there was almost no way Peguy would be ready until after the June break and he's already out of the Columbus game, and Moreno is with the US U-18s.... There's also very little chance of anyone over the age of 30 or with an injury history to play...

    Espindola and Rafinha up top? Rafinha had some bright moments during the preseason, plus can he really be worse than Johnny Arteaga.
     
  23. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Our whole damn Open Cup team is on the injury report for Columbus...

    OUT: Akpan, Bover, Christianson, Digao, Luyindula

    Christianson must have seriously messed up his foot, he's been on the sidelines all season.
     
  24. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fine by me. Play more regulars.
     

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