Matchday 2: Argentina X Ecuador, pre & post game commentary (r)

Discussion in 'CONMEBOL' started by efernandez9, Jul 7, 2004.

  1. vipnerd

    vipnerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román

    Thanx for the healthy laugh ... I almost fall off my chair. :D I just gave you some reputation points for it. ;)
     
  2. d'allesandor deserves to be kicked out of soccer after what he did in that "friendly"
     
  3. blanquiroja redded

    Jun 1, 2004
    New Jersey
    Nah i meant honduras like in C.A. 2001 which was the fakest ever.
     
  4. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    En mi analisis, Argentina desperdicio muchas oportunidades de gol en el 1er tiempo. Ecuador cometio el error de jugarles de igual a igual, y al mismo tiempo "El Bolillo" utilizo sus 3 cambios. Luego, los delanteros y/o jugadores en ofensiva que utilizo Ecuador trataron de hacer DEMASIADOS lujos (especialmente si se considera la situacion del partido, incluso hasta en el 2-1 argentino) + una defensa que rara vez presento garantias, especialmente por un lateral izquierdo que 1. le ganaron casi siempre y 2. rara vez recibio apoyo de su mediocampista...a lo mejor el Bolillo ya habia sacado al volante por ese costado, pero de cualquier manera....
     
  5. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    no disrespect mate.... I just could not resist.... actually I admire him (until he palyer DIM 2003 and ONce Caldas 2004) .....Besides, as a person he is very cool person, as player he deserves to be there, instead of caballero.

    chill out.....those were game comments in the middle of total euforia! I will give you some rep points for that! gave me some, I do not how this other guys do it to solicit nipples! have fun! enjoy the 6-1
     
  6. prove it was fake

    what do you have against honduras

    they beat brazil fair and sqaure you cant say anything about that...
     
  7. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he means that the whole Copa America 2001 was fake. Brazil sent a "C" team and Argentina didn't send a team at all. The whole tournament was second rate.
     
  8. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    well, i will defend by saying that we had a ************ goal keeper.
    IF we had Cevallos, even Espinoza who was on the bench, things wouldn't be this bad.
    And no, Ecuador is not a bad team! We beat Colombia, who beat Argentina last week, and we had other historic victories. Argentina is a great team when they want to be, and tonight, they wanted to be, and I'm sorry, but if we had the right players, I am 100 percent confident that we would have put up atleast a decent battle! I hope that crap gomez gets fired! he is not using our best players, and no KAVIEDES!!!
     
  9. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    No pund intended, right!

    defending champs still alive....
    Host team was not too strong yesterday, was it?
    we have not seen brazil yet.....so do not hand out the copa to first good grp of player you see!
     
  10. vipnerd

    vipnerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román

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    (the colors shown are no coincidence :D )
     
  11. no it wasnt brazil sent a "B" team with bery good players its argentinas fault they didnt send a team there barely 8% of conmebol there are more teams in conmebol than just argentina the way they were playing it was no big loss...

    anywayyyyyssssssssssss
    we won fair and sqaure...
     
  12. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    no one was playin with delgado, it should have been kaviedes with him!
    and for the record, i seen a dude from Peru say he doesn't like Ecuador! Well guess what, we don't like ya either! Hope Colombia rips you up, just like they did last time. And Venezuela.
     
  13. blanquiroja redded

    Jun 1, 2004
    New Jersey
    yea, thanks. The whole tournament was second rate.
     
  14. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    so is this one. brazil didn't bring their best team, and Ecuador didn't bring their best team.
     
  15. and colombia didnt bring there best team....and urgauy didnt bring there best team and mexico didnt bring their best team

    your point is ???
     
  16. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    Y paraguay?

    that is for another thread! Here lets talk about argentina/Ecuador
     
  17. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Beautiful! It is about time that we play to our potential, at least for a half. I thought the team played well, other than Chelito who seemed to be out of form. But Saviola finally played as I've seen him play for the Gayinas, and I hope he earned the starting spot at centerforward. Goodbye Crespo. D'alessandro also played well, but it was a team effort. It helped that Ecuador played poorly in the first half and then quit after Saviola's first goal, but I will take it.

    And what an awesome goal was Saviola's first! I hope it builds his confidence up. If he and D'alessandro step it up it could be the beggining of something great.

    I hope bielsa doesn't ******** it up somehow.
     
  18. guinness

    guinness New Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    I wouldn't call this a chat. It's a forum. There's a difference. Chat rooms are instantaneous line by line. Forums you have to keep hitting reload. A chat would be way better during a game.
     
  19. LEPE

    LEPE New Member

    May 5, 2004
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    No,D'alessandro is too good!! he set- up almost every play!! No. 10 shirt is taken!!

    Killy had his best game in a long time and Saviola just told Barcelona, 'Don;t replace me yet'!!
     
  20. Argentina Girl

    Argentina Girl New Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    An awesome game from Argentina!!! WOW!!! That's the way I like it! :D
     
  21. hoss23

    hoss23 Member

    Mar 3, 2003
    It was nice to see Argentina doing more than simply cross-after-cross-after-cross (although a few of these worked very well late in the second half). Even though they only scored one goal in the first half, they look a lot more aggressive than they have in a while. As good as they looked last night, the team should be pretty solid once Aimar and Samuel are back.

    I would also like to see Tevez in place of Delgado. Does anyone think Cavenaghi will be incorporated into the team by 2006?

    As much as I would like to see Argentina win this tournament, it might be more beneficial to play poorly and force Bielsa out.
     
  22. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    This line of thinking must stop.
     
  23. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I disagree. Ecuador was total crap!!! What a sorry goalkeeper, Hurtado and Espinosa gave away balls like they were in Christmass, and were easily outworked by Saviola. Chala, Ambrosi and Ayovi didn't have a clue of what to do with the ball when they had it. Obregon was doing a fair job on D'Alessandro until the whole team got disconnected and fell off the cliff.
    You can save Salas and Delgado that put some pressure on Argentina's defence, but oh God, Ecuador was not even close. They looked afraid, confused, clueless.

    Argentina got control of the whole game, but I didn't see anything special until after Ecuador's goal, when they decided that they would not take crap from a sorry a$$ team and proceded to kick their butts. And after the third goal, Ecuador just gave up and allowed Argentina to score at will.

    Argentina could be a good team, but this Ecuador is not a fair measure of their potential!!! They could be a lot less, they could be real contenders, but we'll have to wait until they face a real team to make our conclussions.

    And I have the feeling that the Argentinian players have had enough from Bielsa, that somehow a change is needed, but that's not excuse to underachieve.
     
  24. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    I just hope Kily is released or sold by Inter.
     
  25. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    No, no, no!!! I am as unhappy with Bielsa as the next fan, but lets not get obsessed with him to the point that we start wishing for failure. It is very important for Argentina right now that D'alessandro and Saviola assert themselves as starters and begin to gain confidence to become difference makers and take leadership roles in the team. We have to hope that what started well against a poor side (as Ecuador was last night) continues to develop until these kids become the cornestone of the team. If this helps Bielsa to hang on, so be it.

    A question for fans and armchair coaches: Do you think it would it be realistic and effective to have Aimar, D'alessandro, Tevez and Saviola in the same starting lineup? If so, how would you play them?
     

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