News: NYCFC is Official for 2015: MCFC and NY Yankees as co-owners

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  1. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't FIFA have a rule about only 22 teams being allowed in top division of a league?
     
  2. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I agree, but I also think that the presence of NY2 makes it that much more interesting for the deeper pocketed investors. Remember when the Red Bulls bought the Metros? The price went up and so did the number of interested parties.
     
  3. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The point of the rule is only to keep leagues with round robin format from scheduling too many games.
     
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  4. drdi

    drdi Member

    Jun 6, 2002
    Porto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that rules is for countries, not continents...
     
  5. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're wrong. ;)

    The guideline (not rule) is a limit of 18 IIRC, and the intention is to keep the number of games under control. Since MLS doesn't use a round-robin anymore they won't run afoul of this guideline.
     
  6. Crimen y Castigo

    May 18, 2004
    OakTown
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love this kind of cultural linguistic stuff, truly.

    But were this dynamic to ever come into play -- and were there ever to be enough cultural traction or adoption of the term -- I would venture that there would be enough distinction given the context of any conversation and the use of the definite article to clearly differentiate between Manhattan and the football club.

    e.g.
    "I just got a new place in the City."
    vs.
    "I can't believe City lost again to LA. That's zero wins or ties in 20 years."

    That's how language works.
     
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  7. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Yes. But I wouldn't get any hopes up. I seriously doubt MCFC loans any players it sees playing for MCFC in the future to this team. Ex: Simon Dawkins.

    NYCFC would be getting Wayne Bridge and Roque Santa Cruz for example. That would be not bad.
     
  8. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And if they're really pretentious, they'll say "I can't believe Citeh lost again."
     
  9. The 92nd Fish

    The 92nd Fish Member

    Jan 16, 2007
    London, England
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Nope. It's a Big Soccer meme that FIFA want to restrict the amount of teams in a league. It comes from a while back when FIFA tried to limit top flight leagues to 18 teams to open up more international fixtures. The EPL told them where to stick it and Serie A expanded from 18 to 20 teams the year later. Even if it was true (it's not) then MLS could just be sneaky and create two legally distinct leagues (a la MLB) and a play-off system at the end.

    It's almost as bad as this nonsense that 'City' is Manchester City trying to spread their brand. Literally hundreds of football clubs have the word 'City' in their name, it's one of the most common football team names. Manchester City will spread their brand through cross promotion, sponsoring events, billboards, friendlies, commercial tie ups etc. Not by putting the name 'City' in the club's name.

    As it stands NYCFC is a perfectly fine, retro feeling name that suits New York, much better than it ever did Dallas. It says what it needs to and that's it, no need for a gimmicky name.
     
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  10. Sporting Real

    Sporting Real Member+

    Jun 29, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm just ready to see a balanced schedule again. That's all I want. No more 3 games in 7 days crap. And if NYC FC is the team that stop it, good
     
  11. kickingdead

    kickingdead Member

    Jan 12, 2012
    Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know you were just throwing a big name out there, but I would also bet he is not happy with the tax rates in France.
     
  12. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    It's definitely true that the RB organization can't be accused of making no effort. I do think they could be criticized for not having a clue how to do it. For most of the current ownership's history--and especially the crucial, early years when people are forming the kind of impressions that will be hard to reverse--RB was the master of overly-expensive, flashy promotional expenditures with no grassroots sustainment and no local connection.

    That's the kind of thing that could easily be repeated here, but then it might not be. We're going to have to see how it goes through the next year and a half. I feel like having a NY-based partner aboard at least gives the new team a better chance to make a good start of it, but yeah, we shall see.

    That is true. I'm basically one of those people, I'll defend MLS 95% of the time--of course that's because 95% of the time, the criticisms are prejudged, out of touch, made out of ignorance, or what-have-you.

    I can't remember, but you'd probably find me criticizing the people who thought it was dumb. But then again, those people didn't think through their positions very well, either, just spouted off based on gut-instinct truthiness like they do with everything the league does. They were right, but ya know, broken clock. . .
     
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  13. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana St. Louis City

    St. Louis City SC
    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are good with language. Well-written post, agree or not, and I now want to use that term out on my street: "cultural traction". I'll report back later. :D
     
  14. atlantefc

    atlantefc Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    F*dabig4neveryleague
    Club:
    Charlton Athletic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Having the Yankees as part of the ownership gives me some hope that NYC wont be using MCFC's colors and name


    Good luck !!!
     
  15. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    That's assuming that Red Bull don't win an Open Cup, Supporters Shield or MLS Cup this season ro next.
     
  16. Caddman

    Caddman Member+

    Aug 18, 1999
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean the ones that don't give a rip about MLS anyway?
     
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  17. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    . . . . . . . that's the joke.
     
  18. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    If they haven't managed even a single point in 20 years, then why would you be surprised if they lost again to LA? ;)
    We all know they won't.
     
  19. BringSoccerToIndy

    May 24, 2008
    1001 West New York Street, Indianapolis, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The backlash is making me like NYCFC. It's hard to become an evil empire on the day the team is announced but they've done it. I'm impressed.
     
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  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    How would this stop that? Having an even number of teams will make scheduling easier but when we had 18 teams there were still 3 games in 7 days sometimes. It certainly isn't going to be a balanced schedule with 20 teams.
     
  21. Caddman

    Caddman Member+

    Aug 18, 1999
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As long as we're going with the deuce theme, New York Sh**ty has a nice ring to it.
     
  22. atlantefc

    atlantefc Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    F*dabig4neveryleague
    Club:
    Charlton Athletic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Now use any colors but Sky blue please....
     
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  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    They don't.
     
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  24. DemmahoM

    DemmahoM Member

    Apr 1, 2005
    New Haven CT
    Club:
    --other--
    I've been following MLS for years but have been holding out on supporting a club until the NYC franchise became a reality. I've been following the expansion into NYC for close to 5 years. So I can tell you that I'm just glad it FINALLY happened. After all the BS over the past couple of years, and the failure of the Cosmos, it really did look that this was never going to happen.

    Am I happy about the ownership? Well, I'm a Mets and Arsenal fan, so in short, no. But I will get used to them, and guess what? Most people either will get used to them or just don't care who the owners are to begin with. Fans won't give a crap about the links to Man City, if the franchise is fulfilling its potential as the premier club in the MLS.

    Also, I really don't see why the owners are causing such an issue. I mean, THIS IS THE MLS! We have a club that's essentially an advertisement for an energy drink, a club that OFFICIALLY recognizes itself as a sister club to a Mexican team, and we have franchise that's being run the same way an NBA franchise runs a WNBA franchise (Revs).
     
  25. atlantefc

    atlantefc Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    F*dabig4neveryleague
    Club:
    Charlton Athletic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Ok I am looking at NYCFC Facebook page and website and they are definetely going to use City's colors.... What a shame .....
     

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