Pre-match: USA vs Belgium; May 29th; FirstEnergy Stadium

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  1. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair enough, what I mostly mean is he has very little recovery speed and can get turned by a fast winger. Omar gets turned by a fast winger, but he has recovery speed.

    Remember, it was Geoff that got burned on Kevin Mirallas' individual 70-80 yard run when Everton played Stoke. Not that one play makes a man, but I'm not looking forward to Belgium's wingers going at our fullbacks.
     
  2. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering the likely absences from this game, this is what I expect to see:

    --------------Altidore
    E.Johnson---Dempsey---Zusi
    ---------Jones--------Edu------
    DMB----Besler---Gonzo---Cam
    -------------Howard------------

    I could also see Goodson sneaking in for Besler, since Besler has missed some time and it's also not clear who Klinsi rates higher (let's not forget that Besler only started against Mexico cause Goodson was hurt. Personally I think Besler won another start with his performance.)
     
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  3. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After reviewing the absences, think you're absolutely right.

    That left side is ripe for the picking. Hope DMB has another Mexico in him.
     
  4. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't forget that Parkhurst has already started 2 WCQs for The MNT. He started at RB at Jamaica and at LB v Guatemala.
     
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  5. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Ha. That lineup draws itself (just did it in the other thread, hadn't seen it here). Of interest: the LB position has no backup (Cameron has played it like four times in the last couple of years, that's it).

    So if something happens to The Beaz, Parkhurst to the right and Geoff to the left. Scary. Bet Klinsmann wins the friendlies and gets the usual minimum-acceptable points in the important ones.

    PS: Right, Parkhurst was LB vs. Guatemala, and didn't do it badly. That's a position he never seems to play for his clubs, though. Maybe it's more of the poly-functional thing JK has going on.
     
  6. Tom Collingsworth

    Jun 14, 2011
    North Carolina
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Geoff got turned by Mirallas because he has bad hips i.e. no agility. I hate to disagree but as far as straight line speed is concerned GCAM is much faster than Omar. No shame in getting scalped by Mirallas anyway, it would've happened to most of our CB's if put in the same situation.
     
  7. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he had been playing, I would feel better. But he hasn't been.
     
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  8. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's probably a better way to put it actually. Rather than saying no pace, saying no agility. I'd agree with that.

    So his lack of agility worries me playing fullback. And he's seeing Mirallas in a week and a half.
     
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  9. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just necessity, both Fab and Castillo were (as usual) out injured for the A&B and Guatemala WCQs. Boca played LB v A&B and Parkhurst played LB v Guatemala.
     
  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    In PES-speak, Geoff's problem is a very low dribbling speed, that is, he doesn't turn on a dime and a fast dribbling winger or forward can "break" him and go around him.
     
  11. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Well anybody can play left back amirite?:)

    He has moved there sometimes during games when a top winger went to the other side he just followed the guy and his mate just swapped sides with him.

    As for the Mirallas incident, a lot of guys are getting toasted there anyway. I can't think of any 1v1 defenders we have that are clearly better than him. I think the attacker should win that battle more often than not anyway, a whole half a pitch and one man twenty yards away to beat.

    I know Parkhurst has not played much lately but he is a pretty good player and he has competed against the best in the CL. When I think of him I think of tidy. He is not a world beater or anything but I have never seen him get Costly-ed multiple times in a game. He seldom puts a foot wrong.
     
  12. Yaznasty

    Yaznasty Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This but I think Klinsmann goes with Herc on the left rather than E. Johnson. Other than that I could absolutely see him going with this. Raise your hand if your psyched about the possibility of Edu/Jones in the middle...
     
  13. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eh, it's just for the friendly, I wouldn't be worried. Fabian and Castillo will be back before the qualifiers, so we'll have LB depth.
     
  14. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beasley going to get torched. F. Johnson will miss Belgium game right?
     
  15. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes he is playing in the promotion/relegation playoff for Hoffenheim then.
     
  16. Tom Collingsworth

    Jun 14, 2011
    North Carolina
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why? JK was going to start GAM over Herc at LW in the last qualifiers if not for nagging injuries, or so it was said. I'd much rather have EJ there because he's got electric pace and can actually take his man in 1v1 unlike most of our player pool.
     
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  17. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    EJ with a monster match (brace) tonight in a 4-2 win v Dallas. First goal a pace and strength job. 2nd a good run for a through ball in the box. More important he was very active with great workrate.
     
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  18. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    The only thing that stops that run is a decisive, well timed challenge. You can't give that fast of a player that much of a head start and expect to be able to react to their feints/cuts. I criticized Geoff at the time for it but it was more about decision making. 1v1 on the wing I've rarely seen Cam get skinned and his quickness was tested over and over, his ability to win tackles at full stretch is impressive.

    ---------Johnson------------Altidore-----------------
    ----------------------Dempsey------------------------
    -----------------------------------------Zusi-----------
    -----------Jones---------------------------------------
    ------------------------Edu----------------------------
    Beasley------------------------------------------------
    ----------------Besler------Gonzalez-----Cameron--
    ----------------------Howard-------------------------

    Morph from 4-1-2-1-2 to 4-2-3-1 to 3-5-2.

    I know EJ is useful on the wing but he's better up top and he will give someone other than Dempsey for Altidore to play off. His extra pace can stretch the field, and it's best to do that from a higher starting point than a LAM.

    Jones had an amazing game for Schalke in the Champions League playing LCM in a 4-2-3-1. Normally we see him shade to the right but on the left he's able to cut inside and be dangerous without then having to turn the corner and put in a cross.

    Zusi should have freedom to attack but he should be our 4th most attacking option. He'll play wider than Jones and hopefully he really starts to impact the game by sending in all kinds of crosses to the very dangerous front 3 (who need to be in the box often).

    Beasley gets up the wing more than Cameron, looking at the mids and attackers in front of them it's a natural fit to complement those guy's movement and skills.
     
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  19. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With EJ being mentioned and used in qualifiers I think he would be used at LAM before Herc
     
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  20. braun

    braun Red Card

    Feb 22, 2001
    metro Boston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That lineup will get creamed by Belgium.
     
  21. BiLLyHiLLo07

    BiLLyHiLLo07 Member

    Aug 18, 2007
    Thats pretty much 90% of our best players soooo what your saying is were gonna get killed regardless.
     
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  22. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well Belgium wont have some of their best players so that can help.
     
  23. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Belgium has a talented team. I am certainly in agreement that they can make some noise in Brazil. I don't understand the sensitivity of some of the posters, however. I'm not calling any stupid or insane. Just pointing out the facts of the team's history. Is News and Analysis becoming Yanks Abroad?
     
  24. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Though his performances had declined over the past several months Cameron rarely gets beaten by wingers in the Prem. The strength of his high opta marks lie essentially in his ability to stop people.

    We'll be missing Bradley, Johnson, Williams, Corona, Castillo, and Altidore correct?
     
  25. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Not if they play it like a friendly and sub half the team by the half.
     

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