He's also done miracles for us. We've conceded 7 goals all season, that's ********ing enormous. We had one of our worst years under LvG, but made it to the CL final despite having such a thin squad, and facing real madrid without Schweinsteiger who was our man in midfield. Heynckes just got things right for us, yes, we didn't win anything, but we got our respect back after that dreadful year with LvG. He also gave our team a proper identity, Badstuber, Kroos and Alaba are the 3 major players he brought in, and look at how they've done - they are part of our identity and shows that we don't need to sign 30 million players every single time. Its a coherent philosophy that he's stuck with and it is working for us magically.
That is simply not true, during your formative years as a player you need the proper coach. Kroos was relegated to the CM position for a whole season, one he did not enjoy. Heynckes came in and made sure he gave the best he could, even in that CM position. No player, not Messi nor Ronaldo, is too talented to fail. Anyone will fail without the proper coaching. Heynckes has been unique and Kroos will thank him for that.
Neither Müller nor Badstuber actually and Alaba is at least questionable as LvG was the one who entrusted a 17 year old lad from Vienna to be our future LB while the fans and experts were still grieving and bashing our management over the failed Coentrao transfer. In my opinion JH is excellent at further maturing young players who already developed to a certain competitive degree. At least that's what he did with Kroos, Alaba and Boateng. In general I think it is a tad disappointing that he probably won't take any risks like bringing in Højbjerg or Can given this is his last season. Well that's why we signed Guardiola I guess.
Badstuber yes, but he had his worst season under LvG as well and Heynckes himself said, right after beating Man City, that he felt badstuber should not leave (an indicator the FO was pushing in another direction). Alaba came through as a left back and arguably one of the best in the league not because LvG recognized his talent, but because Heynckes saw potential for him in that position. I think Can and Hojbjerg should enjoy games this season, then again, I am an enormous proponent of clubs bringing in youth players, so there is bias since I havent seen Hojbjerg play, but heard plenty of his ability.
Yeah, he recognized his talent as LB right after all other valid options were either injured, out of form or needed elsewhere. By the way LvG said the following in 2010 about David Alaba: "he's a left back, he just doesn't know yet." so claiming Heynckes achieved anything when he "recognized his talent" after it was already discovered is quite odd. If not absurd. About Badstuber: You're basically proving my point. JH is excellent at further maturing players who already stepped up from youth football. Sure Badstuber's 2nd season was horrible and it was me who said it first on bigsoccer that it is JH's achievement that Badstuber wasn't replaced in 2011. He's done well with these talented young players who already made their way into international football. Nevertheless I fail to see the convincing argument where he himself develops a youth player into a Bayern player.
My thoughts exactly. I said some time ago that I was disappointed with the minutes our youths got under Heynckes
He didn't brought in anyone all four players are LvG doing ... I assumed you were talking about the dutch...
This man is pure class!!! This was in response to being tagged as the 'Special One' by KHR. http://www.goal.com/en/news/15/germany/2013/05/10/3968723/heynckes-rejects-special-one-tag?ICID=OP
Gary LinekerVerified account@GaryLineker Only one of these sides needs Guardiola and it's not Bayern Munich.
The transition will be almost unprecedented in recent times.When has a club been in such a streak of form and yet been the subject of this kind of high profile manager change? Jupp Heynckes has been the most stable and effective coach we have had since Hitzfeld's glory days. I'm glad he has the opportunity to bow out in a big way but I definitely hope letting him go doesn't come back to bite us. This season he has really shown his pedigree as one of the best coaches in the world through tactics but mostly in actually creating a mentally strong squad out of this Bayern side (!). It's strange because Pep will simultaneously have the easiest and the hardest job in football next season.. He's inheriting a squad with excellent chemistry, depth, and professionalism. He will have another world class option in Gotze next term. But at the same time, what do you do with that? When you are heralded as a top coach with a vision and defined methodology but the project is already well underway and showing very effective results, how do you adapt to that? Will he have the same freedom to implement his own system? It's quite a different scenario than when he took over at Barca and where he proves himself will be in his ability to adapt without compromising his vision. The players will also have to prove themselves in terms of adapting the successful model to new leadership. Best case: Bayern is the first club to defend the modern Champions League. Worst case: Uli is calling up Jupp Heynckes this time next year...
If we can get a treble this year, I'll just enjoy the show next season and not stress or expect too much. I'll be happy
I never had a problem when LvG was jettisoned and Jupp was brought it. I had always liked him, knew the territory in Munich, and felt that he had the right psychological approach. Calm, but determined - even during those "Osram" moments. I think his time in charge has been a revelation, in that he has honed the tactics implemented by LvG and applied his own soothing balm - a stark contrast to the Dutchman's legendary haughtiness. He is a great coach, a great manager and above all someone who truly empathises with the struggles and pitfalls of the professional footballer. Why? Simple. Because he was a great player himself. This is what Bayern have done really well in recent years. At every level, there has been a first-class professional involved. Uli. Kalle. Sammer. Jupp. I think this will continue with Pep, as he too shares those same essential skills. It will be a shame to see Jupp go, and the treble this season will be the perfect send off. MIA SAN MIA!
I think you guys should give an honorable mention to Klinsmann because he was the catalyst when its all said and done. Thank you Klinsy
Thank you Klinsmann for being so shit that you made our club officials think about actually changing stuff at Bayern München.
Repped on my assumption that you were being sarcastic! Hats off to Klinsi, we will never forget that 4-0 drubbing at the Camp Nou!