Ongoing Chivas USA Current News (Coaching Changes, Legal Issues etc...) Thread

I don't think he wants to spend any money on the club so he can leverage it at a higher price. I did the same thing with my house in San Jose. Bought it for $500k , went to Home Depot got some paint, some sod and tanbark and sold it 5 years later for $800k. Pretty smart no?

 

Probably could have got a million if you would have done more than sod, paint, and tanbark.

 

Well I actually did a lot of cosmetic stuff to it but I wouldn't have got a million. It was a small house with a small backyard and big front yard so they went by the sq ft. Also, the guy I sold it to, lost his shirt and he ended up selling it 5 years later for $590K, (I think it was) as the prices went down and so I came out ahead but he lost out.

 

I can think of plenty of reasons.

 

That's a trickier thing to call. As a team you need to create your identity. I think there are ways to create a Hispanic team that still appeals to non-hispanics. Whether this can be done in LA or by a rebranded Chivas-USA is harder for me to say.

 

Agreed.

And an MLS club in LA/OC doesn't need to be marketed to "a majority" of people, it likely just needs to be marketed "properly" (whatever that means) to a majority of soccer fans, and potential "local" soccer fans. And analyzing demographically, and culturally/language-based, I think the "soccer fan population" in LA/OC might be slightly different than the full/total population in LA/OC and its demographics.

Of course a team in LA -- or Chicago or Houston or Dallas or DC or Montreal, or in a lot of MLS markets -- would be foolish not to market itself in multiple languages. But the idea that MLS's "LA Aztecs" marketed primarily in Spanish, on the local level especially, would be a bad approach is not something I'd disagree with. I see this (hypothetical situation) to be not all that different than the reality of Impact de Montréal using French primarily -- not that Spanish is an "official official" language in and around LA/OC, but it certainly has a huge population of Spanish speakers.

 

Lol. Way to take the comment out if context... I was responding to a poster that said Orlando's best shot to get a team was to buy Chivas and relocate them. I was just pointing out with a bit of a strawman that NYCFC's announcement doesn't impact Orlando's chances of getting an expansion team.

 

http://www.mlssoccer.com/video/2013/05/07/inside-mind-chelis-part-1

 

I highly doubt this is true, but it's an interesting claim.

http://www.thegoatparade.com/2013/5/8/4312952/report-mls-may-seize-chivas-usa-from-jorge-vergara

 

I can't see MLS doing this unless there are no other buyers on the horizon. The league would much rather have Vergara sell the team to a new owner directly, rather than having to deal with the bad publicity involved in calling a default and taking over the team.

 

Strange statement in that article:

Are their fans continually maligned for following the team? I see lots of complaints about the organization and negative comments about the number of Chivas fans but not about the act of following the team. Or is this how Chivas USA fans interpret the criticism?

 

i am pretty sure everybody sees the few Chivas USA fans that there are as heroic. the team, their ownership, their 2nd class citizens status to Chivas Guad, their complete lack of fans overall and market presence, their near racist policies ... sure those things people complain about and lambaste. but the few hardcore fans themselves .... i've never seen that nor do i personally have anything but respect and pity for them myself and nobody hates Chivas USA more than me.

 

I have nothing but sympathy for their (few remaining) fans. If I'd been served up such a shit sandwich, I would've been gone a long time ago.

 

Yeah, but given that the league has been unable to get Houston spun off from AEG, unable to find a way to split up HSG, and going abroad for an NYC owner, is it that hard to believe that they're having trouble finding someone to take over Chivas? Given the brand damage and lack of a stadium, it's probably worse than trying to build an expansion franchise.

I doubt that MLS is doing a hostile takeover, but I'm not sure it's all that more unlikely than finding new ownership.

 

Although MLS would prefer a direct sale and not be burdened with middle man role, the scenario is possible if private party agreement cannot be reached as to sale price. There is also a litigation cost risk. MLS will only do this as a last resort.

Personally I am fine with LA having one team. Chivas moving is all upside. No downside in my book......for the league as a whole. The move won't even get press outside the soccer world. That is how inconsequential Chivas USA is.

 

League responds via Twitter:
"That report is incorrect. MLS remains supportive of Chivas USA's plans. The ESPN writer did not contact MLS." Dan Courtemanche (@courtemancheMLS)

Wouldn't expect any other answer.

 

Let's see how supportive MLS remains of Chivas USA's plans after this season. The only people that want Chivas USA to stay is their tarp supplier.

 

Keep the team in L.A. Let Goldenballs come in on retirement and exercise his option to buy a team. Negotiate a stadium deal on the other side of town. Rebrand Chivas to the L.A. Aztecs or something throw back like. Now you've got a new stadium, a new brand and a new owner who wants to do sexy football in L.A.

Not saying it will happen but it's the most likely scenario if the league does do something with the team and probably the only way it stays in L.A.

 

The CDUSA fans that go to matches are awesome.

 

I suppose they could say,

"Yes, we're thinking about taking over CUSA and possibly moving them. Please stop coming to the games (like you were showing up anyway) and buying merchandise. Unless you're a collector, in which case you can put the CUSA jersey next to your Colorado Caribou jersey and your Seattle Seadogs bobbleheads."

 

Does anyone actually buy Chivas USA merchandise? It seems like everyone in the crowd shots I see who's wearing red and white stripes is wearing that other team's shirt.

 

Dallas?

 

LOL I saw a CDUSA training top for sale at a store once. Was like $10.

I bought it.

 

Because you were out of dish rags, right?

 

First MLS swag I ever owned was a CUSA t-shirt I got at a sporting goods store. Only other choice was RSL. Must have been the first year either team was in the league. Wore that thing all the time and people looked at me like 'huh?'

not many MLS sightings north of seattle pre-Sounders.