Don Garber Hates Soccer Fans

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  1. Rick Shaw

    Rick Shaw Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    Villahermosa, México
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don Garber had this to say in an article on Sports Illustrated:

    "There's more soccer on television than any other sport by far,'' Garber said. "You've got European soccer. You've got Mexican soccer. You've got Major League Soccer. There's way too much soccer on television. I think all of us got to figure out a way to narrow that window so you can get a situation like the NFL has, a couple of days a week, short schedule, something that's very compelling and very targeted.''

    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130425/mls-new-york-stadium.ap/#ixzz2RZSe6RMm


    As a soccer fan, I do not agree that there is too much soccer on TV. I rather like the amount of soccer on television and I don't want anybody colluding to restrict coverage. What exactly is Don suggesting? His statement that they need to 'narrow the window' that soccer is on TV is offensive.

    He wants to take our games away. Something must be done. Ideas?
     
  2. vividox

    vividox Moderator
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    Aug 10, 2005
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    Sporting Kansas City
    Wow, what an accurate thread title you have there.
     
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  3. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    There's way too much of everything on television.

    Not sure what anybody can do about that.
     
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  4. itcheyness

    itcheyness Member

    Jul 30, 2012
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *Sarcasm meter catches fire*
     
  5. Rick Shaw

    Rick Shaw Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    Villahermosa, México
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. Make one Kanye West reference in a thread title and see what you get. At the very least, you must agree that Don Garber's comments show a casual disdain for the choices now available to soccer fans to watch a variety of games every day of the week. Now that would make for a snappy thread title.

    But come on people, as soccer fans who presumably watch multiple leagues, if you don't find Garber's comments objectionable also, then I'm surprised.

    Let me tell you where I think he's going with this. A limited number of games on basic cable/satellite packages, and a whole lot of games on pay-per-view. What else could he have in mind with what he said?
     
  6. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I've noticed there are less Mexican league games on Telemundo and Univision than there were a few years ago.

    Spanish language networks hate Mexicans.
     
  7. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Don Garber doesn't care about soccer fans.:cautious:

    He cares about the owners and what the owners tell him to do. He's a commissioner.
     
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  8. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Garber's angle here is that keeping a tight control on supply allows a league to maximize their income in their terms. Yeah, ain't happening in soccer.
     
  9. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Well, considering the amount of soccer I watch, I'd say my girlfriend would certainly agree with Garber on this one.
     
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  10. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Like the NFL? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
    Definitely too much for MLS LLC.
    Don't forget national side.
    Welcome to the World's Game!
     
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  11. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
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    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The fact that you thought that would be funny and/or good pretty much explains everything. I mean really, you expected something else in response ?

    DCU1996 swinging and missing on the point ? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
    The point he made was very good actually.
    What ? DAFUQ are you talking about ?
    It's 2013, not the mid-90's ... you're late on the greeting.
     
  12. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Uh... yea good point for the sake of MLS LLC to control the supply and the market like NFL monopoly.
    Welcome to the World's Game.
     
  13. SoCalYid

    SoCalYid Member+

    Jun 11, 2011
    BigSoccer :)
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    Reduce to nearly everything.

    :cautious:
     
  14. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Uh yeah ...

    "a couple of days a week, short schedule, something that's very compelling and very targeted"

    How is that controlling the supply and market ? The hell are you talking about ? Garber is making mention to the fact that the NFL TV schedule is very compact and focused rather than all over the place.
     
  15. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Seriously WTF are you talking about?? Then make MLS TV schedule compact, focused, compelling, and targeted. Read before posting. It's like saying there are too much Movies in the theaters. I wish my movie is the only one in theaters LOL Welcome to the World's Game!
     
  16. Unmarked

    Unmarked Member

    Aug 31, 2012
    The thread title should be renamed "Don Garber hates competition".
     
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  17. Rick Shaw

    Rick Shaw Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    Villahermosa, México
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    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don Garber wants to collude with other leagues and television partners to reduce the amount of soccer on television and there are people here defending that statement. I realize posting something critical of Garber here may be akin to going on Chicago Bulls boards and saying LeBron James is better now than Michael Jordan ever was, but it was not my intent to skewer a local hero.

    Garber has undeniably been a great commisioner in almost all facets. The one glaring weakness is television ratings, and he wants to increase those by restricting our access to other attractive sources. I think that is wrong, and I thought I would get a little more agreement.

    Now, it's awfully unlikely that he will be successful, but do you really want Don Garber deciding if you can watch Roma play Lazio in a cup game on a Wednesday?

    If you think that MLS television ratings should come at the expense of our ability to watch (American players playing in) foreign leagues, then put that in writing here. I would be interested to know how many of you feel that way.
     
  18. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Garber is not quoted as saying this & if he did, so what. He has about as much ability to do this as I have to control all of the gold in the world. Garber's main job is to act as the mouthpiece of the MLS Board of Governors & if he says something outrageous that gives MLS more press I'm sure they are happy. I'm positive they don't feel bound by anything he says. If it makes it any easier on you think of Garber as a MLS version of Seth Blatter.
     
  19. Wazzu Gunner

    Wazzu Gunner Member

    Mar 21, 2008
    Ballard, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I LOL'd at Gomez putting him on blast on twitter.
     
  20. tambo

    tambo Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    "X hates Y" isn't exactly some obvious, exclusive reference. (Especially when what Kanye actually said was, "George Bush doesn't care about black people.")
     
  21. Rick Shaw

    Rick Shaw Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    Villahermosa, México
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I couldn't agree more. A much better, and much more accurate thread title would have been, as Sitruc originally corrected, "Don Garber doesn't care about soccer fans."
     
  22. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't have to agree with that.

    Because I know what he meant.

    The cornucopia of soccer available on television - while a boon to fans - is tough if you're trying to run a soccer league and so much of what is out there not only competes with what you're trying to sell, it is of demonstrably higher popularity.

    Also, an increased supply of anything makes any individual piece slightly less special and valuable. Example: Monday Night Football, which is now just the last football game of the weekend, instead of a special event. Another example: every single college football game telecast.

    That's what he meant.
     
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  23. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pro tip: In a ranking of Kanye jokes, "I'm-a let you finish" ranks far ahead of "X doesn't care about Y".
     
  24. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know, I wish you had posted this a week ago. A week ago, I wasn't a moderator of this forum, and I would have been free to tell you just how insane I think you are in much more colorful terms.

    Instead, I'll just say this: I don't blame Don for hating soccer fans, because reading this forum makes me hate them a lot.
     
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  25. Rick Shaw

    Rick Shaw Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    Villahermosa, México
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If all Garber meant to say was that there is a lot of competition, then I would have had no problem with that, as it's patently obvious.

    But he went a step further than that. And since you can translate Garberese, then please explain what "all of us got to figure out a way to narrow that window" means, if it doesn't mean reduce the amount of soccer on TV.

    As for your NFL example, I would say that increasing the supply of football on television over the years has made the NFL an awful lot more money than when they were a broadcast television 2 games on Sunday affair, and has also made the fans happier. The NFL wants more of its product out there, not less, and it has benefitted the league and fans greatly.
     

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