Pictures Of Your Boots [10] - Post your pictures here.

Fair enough, as I'm sure you're well aware it's fairly difficult to detect sarcasm on the internet, unless it's right in your face obvious, which your post wasn't.

No idea what the highlighted bit is about. The point I made was full of 'real logic', and quite frankly.. I couldn't give a toss whether people like me on here or not. It's a forum where I express my views, I'm not too fussed whether they disagree with me or not. I'm not really on here to make friends, just have a polite discussion about football boots and football in general. I've said this before anyway. Think the highlighted bit is totally out of order myself though.

But I'll stay mature, and not rise to it. You said you were joking, end of.

 

You still haven't responded.

 

Obviously it's not made me angry enough for me to start ranting and raving to myself about it.

Just (I'll no doubt get in trouble for this) it struck me as the typical American stereotype where people are arrogant and consider themselves 'proper' people, whereas us 'Brits' are somehow on a lower peg to them.

In hindsight, it appears to be said in a jokey manner.

 

Don't worry about it JC. There's no obligation for you to do it, and I appreciate the time you've put into it.

No hard feelings yeah?

 

I'm a huge Bond fan, and probably being English there is a good chance you are as well. So i'm gonna pull a quote from GoldenEye said by Jack Wade of the CIA....

I mean, for crying out loud... another stiff-ass Brit, with your secret codes and your passwords. One of these days you guys are gonna learn just to drop it.

 

Hahahahaha. Yes, yes.. Very good.

The 'stiff-ass Brit' is very apt, not necessarily the secret bit, but you should know by now I'm not one to drop it.

 

Stop talking about racist stereotypes and start talking football boots, please!

 

Nothing he said was remotely racist. He's also a mod. Speaking of people who don't know their place...

 

Totally agree, innovation is now synonyms with cost cutting, profit margins, and reduced life expectancy.

 

JC is not the only racist I was talking about.

 

Me too, seemingly.

I really don't want to bring out a Google dictionary definition.. But I'm seemingly obliged.

rac·ism

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noun

1.​

a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural orindividual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right torule others.

2.​

a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3.​

hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


Believe me, neither me or JC have been racist. Simple as that.

 

I guess you could believe in everything google says but I find the UN to be a more believable source.

"… any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life."
(Part 1 of Article 1 of the U.N. International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination)

 

I've just skimmed through the posts but racism is related to race, ie genetics. When JC talks about UK guys being tough he isn't talking about gingers, Indian immigrants or anything genetically related, simply a cultural difference between two multicultural societies(UK&US). Learn your place kid, and don't sprout shit about the top mod and (surely) highest respected member of this forum being a racist, with nothing that indicates it either.

 

This will be the last time I talk on this topic, all got terribly out of hand once again.

Apologies for this upcoming anecdote in advance. I've been playing high level Mens football of late (which in England is rough, I don't know about anywhere else). Well, this one game. I started on the bench. The manager came up to me before hand and asked me how I was feeling, and I was honest and told him; 'I'm feeling a little tired to be honest, wouldn't mind starting on the bench', so that's what happened. Second half I came on, I was wearing the Seaweed Vapor VIIIs, and almost immediately I received the ball, took a bad touch and straight away I had a guy come up to me, a decent player, and say; 'Oh look, another sh*t player with flashy boots'. So I thought, lovely. Next minute, I get clattered from behind by a huge guy, must have been 6'5+ and I'm thinking.. Is this because of the boots? So I get up, carry on... And the type of player I am, I love assisting. Prefer it over scoring. So I had a chance to break with the ball, ran perhaps 30/40m with it, slid it through for our striker who put it away. So obviously I was pleased with the assist, we won the game 3-0 I think. And at the end, the guy who delightfully called me 'sh*t' came up to me and said; 'Look mate, you're seemingly a decent player. That was a cracking assist before. But if you want to be respected in mens football, get rid of the flashy boots because you look a tw*t' and since then I've tried my upmost to wear black boots.

Thinking about it, I do primarily play Youth football, and on occasion mens too. But that week I played for the mens, and the next I went back to youth, and the difference in footwear was amazing. I don't think a single player was wearing primarily black boots, whereas the complete opposite is the case with the men.

I get the impression now that flashy v classic boots is like men v boys, with the classic being the 'men' and the flashy being the 'boys'.

As you rightly point out though JC, you can tell right from the start who's good and who isn't. Positioning, confidence, shouting and usually the boots too.

It always makes me laugh now how one of my team-mates would come up to me before a game and say, 'Right Jon, that kids got fancy boots. He's playing on the right wing, you're playing against him. Looks like you're in for a tough game..' and now it seems I relish playing the fancy dans, so to speak.

 

You guys clearly don't know what racism is.

 

Genuinely burst out laughing at that.

I don't think either me or JC are exactly 'impairing human rights'. If you look, nowhere did I personally say I agreed with the 'American stereotype'. In fact, I know the complete opposite is the case for every American I've seen/talked to, although don't get me started on gun laws......

If I'd said something along the lines of; 'Those Americans are nothing compared to us Brits. They're loud, obnoxious and terrible at football. They don't even deserve to play football.'

Then you could say I was being racist, according to your UN source of course.

 

If I was being racist according to the official, widely accepted definition, then I'd have said something offensive. Nowhere have I or JC said anything offensive.

I'm English, I didn't take offence to what he said. He's American (I believe he is anyway), I highly doubt he took offence to what I said.

Lets all get along. Especially as Apple is going to have a heart-attack at seeing this thread go so off-topic.

 

Jon,
Cool story about the seaweed Vapors. I certainly wouldn't consider them flashy. Certainly no more flashy than the black/neon green Diadoras worn by the likes of Roy Keane back in the day.

 

I wouldn't either! In fact, I thought they were understated. But a few of the team-mates in that mens team made comments, like 'You'd never see me wearing them'. And the opposition that day took serious offence to the huge Nike tick in vivid neon! So they've been consigned to the scrap heap, so to speak.

 

A) I have a couple of mates that spring o mind for this with the opposite traits. If you look at either of them you'd think "well they look awful"... Give them the ball and expect to be destroyed.

B) the problem arises when the person wearing flashy boots, just happens to be the next Ronaldo. I have had the unfortunate time of playing against them before

 

I hate to continue this off-topic subject, but as an Anthropologist I couldn't stop myself. Race has nothing to do with genetics. There is just as much genetic variation among the population in a "race" as there between different ones. Race is an artificial construct developed by humans to categorize others based on their physical appearance (usually the level of melanin in their skin). And I'm not saying I agree with him, but noob-bob's point in quoting the UN passage was that racism is more than just discriminating against a race but also discriminating against a nationality or ethnicity.

Now back to the somewhat more on topic post: Maybe it's different for me since I play in adult rec leagues, but there are plenty of older people (30+) with brightly color boots (there's even a Brit who just got a pair of those new yellow adizeros). And none of us are particularly good. But when you go down to the store to buy some boots, most of the stock available is brightly colored. And most of them aren't concerned enough about their boots to go out of their way to find some blackout ones online nor do they want to buy expensive leather models. They just want to find something inexpensive that fits their feet.