Spurs and Everton: The Race for 4th -- The Other Teams Thread

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  1. AfrcnHrbMan

    AfrcnHrbMan Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Philly
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
  2. InTheSun

    InTheSun Member+

    Oct 20, 2005
    The Andes Mountains
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
  3. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    You leave Alex Buttner alone! :mad:
     
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  4. ZIAD

    ZIAD Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    I would agree with this post. Unfortunately its a bit of both the board and the management. I know a lot of people oppose the Russian etc.. but a cash injection in a business is what we need to progress to the next stage. Their is nothing wrong with that. Great players will win us trophies, and increase stadium and commercial revenues. Is it taking a risk to invest in more expensive players, of course it is but such is life and its well worth it for a club like Arsenal. Sensible buying is key here. What we've done over the past few years is anything but sensible.
     
  5. deaner1971

    deaner1971 Member+

    Aug 10, 2005
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My issue with the "Russian injection" (which also sounds like either a professional wrestling finishing move or a weird sexual position) solution is that we have money. Yes, not enough to get us to City or Chelsea levels but enough to see us clear of our immediate threat to fourth.

    As you rightly point out, our issue now is that we just are not buying. You could hand Mr. Wenger not just "f&%k you" money but "f&%k EVERYONE" money and it won't matter if he won't spend it.

    My dream is that we spend what we have on our needs and then see if FFP is really the salve it is held out to be. If FFP lasts about as long as Lindesy Lohan's lesbianism, then we are in an unfettered arms race and yes, we unlease the Uzbeki kracken. But that isn't a cup of coffee to get you going in the morning. That is a long-term addiction where you have to keep it going to survive.

    Sadly, if we come in 5th or lower, that is where I see a cash injection being necessary with all future contengencies TBD. We will need someone to at least pony up enough to make up for the lost revenues. If not Stan then I agree with the "Stan out, Uzbeki in". It is Stan's club and he is letting Arsene do this so he HAS to show that he'll make us whole.

    If Arsenal was a body, Arsene has been feeding it cheeseburgers and fries for a few years. That unsightly few pounds we have been carrying for the last few years just turned into some worrisome pain in our chest this season. If Arsene doesn't address the diet, we'll have a heart attack. A minor one might set our thinking straight but I still find it hard to wish for a heart attack.
     
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  6. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    When you see things that need fixing and they dont get fixed and morale begins to sag, it may be because the manager is simply getting old, actually or proverbially.
     
  7. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    [​IMG]
     
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  8. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    kompany's red card has been overturned.
    a bit surprising actually.
     
  9. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    willian taking a strop, not turning up for shaktar's winter break training camp and wants talks about his future (elsewhere).

    i really hope we don't go anywhere near him. we need huffy egos like we need a hole in the head.
     
  10. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    I dont think it was worth a red, but as you said its a bit odd that they let it go considering the form the FA has in upholding bullshit.
     
  11. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    it's not that. it's similar to the nfl reviews, where it has to be 100% shown to be wrong, which i'm not sure kompany's was, regardless of whether i would have shown a red or not. you can see why the ref gave it, albeit a bit harsh, and that's why i was surprised.
    he did lunge into the tackle, and both feet were off the ground (technically he could rightly be seen as out of control which justifies the red even if both feet weren't actually tackling), despite winning the ball.
     
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  12. Romfordray

    Romfordray Member+

    Oct 24, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The sad thing is that if only we had invested back what we got from player sales alone, we would not be in this shape. In other words, all the money that we have squirreled away over the years would have to be spent to get the club back into the top 3 or 4.
     
  13. antifan

    antifan Member+

    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    214 million pounds.
     
  14. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    we've made £38m+ in nett profit from player sales since moving from highbury.
    why was this not reinvested, at the very least? that's probably 3 very good players without even touching any of the other monies squirrelled away.
     
  15. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    38 million could possibly buy 2 world class players, not to mention the lose £100 odd million sitting in our vaults

    is this club questioning life or something? is it depressed and feeling sorry for itself so it won't spend? either wenger or the board are incompetent, something needs to change or we become liverpool
     
  16. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    the money from player sales went to player salaries.
     
  17. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    if you'd done it 4/5/6 years ago you'd have gotten 3....that was around the same time we only needed 1 or 2 good additions to have a fantastic chance of winning the league (in multiple years).
     
  18. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    why? turnover (excl. player transfers) has risen by £58m since 2007, wages have risen by £53m since 2007. the club has made £166m in clear profit since 2007.
     
  19. deaner1971

    deaner1971 Member+

    Aug 10, 2005
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if Walmart had a good holiday sales season then maybe Stan can borrow the cash from the Mrs.
     
  20. deaner1971

    deaner1971 Member+

    Aug 10, 2005
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Want to be amazed? 214 million over 5 years is 42,800,000 per year. Across a 25 man roster that is 1,712,000 per man or wages of 32,923 per man per week.

    Add in profits of 166 million and the average weekly salary (from these sources) is still only 58,461 per week.

    When you have as much dead wood who are getting quality wages (like we do), salaries eat up money fast!
     
  21. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    thats not entirely true tho. IIRC, the club had a declining operating profit the last couple of years. We only made money because of player sales, and before that it was down to the property sales.
     
  22. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    it is entirely true actually. there is more to the story, but my comment is indeed entirely true.
     
  23. InTheSun

    InTheSun Member+

    Oct 20, 2005
    The Andes Mountains
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Pep to Bayern in the Summer.
     
  24. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    yep, official. does he not like challenges or something?
     
  25. PogiGooner

    PogiGooner Member

    Oct 11, 2007
    New Jersey
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Can we take this to mean that he doesn't like City or Chelsea? Perhaps, he is using Bayern as a stepping stone to eventually come to the Prem, where he could decide between Arsenal and Man Utd.
     

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