Chivas USA for me. Just about everything that they've done appears to have only decreased their fan base.
Just a quantitative look at it by the length of drought in each category: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MLS_club_post-season_droughts By MLS Cup Playoffs Qualifications (through 2012): TFC - 6 seasons. By MLS Cup Final (through 2012, though MLS Cup Final 2012 still TBD): Chicago - 9 seasons. By MLS Cup Win (through 2012, though MLS Cup Winners 2012 still TBD): N.Y., Dallas, N.E. - 17 seasons. By Supporters' Shield Win (through 2012): Colorado, N.Y., N.E., Dallas - 17 seasons. By US Open Cup Win (through 2012): Colorado, N.Y. - 17 seasons. In this case, as the team topping the most number of "drought categories" (3: By MLS Cup Win, SS & USOC), N.Y. tops!!
I agree here. I can't really decide. Toronto at least made money in it's first few years but is in danger of losing their fanbase, and Chivas at least was successful on the field for a spell, but is in danger of becoming as bad as TFC is. It's a position that I know TFC's owners don't want to be in bc they do throw money at the team. I'm not so sure about Chivas. They can prove me wrong by building a stadium though.
I voted TFC but it was a tossup between them and Chivas, at least TFC actually represents a city and is an actual club, rather than being a squatting US version of a Mexican club. If Chivas USA ever rebrands, that issue goes away for me. Voting for TFC is sort of like kicking a puppy but on the field they've actually gotten even worse after already being the worst team in the league, and I still recall how arrogant they were when they came into the league, so...
Plenty of short memories around here. Putting KC on the list at around that time? They were MLS Cup runners up in 2004 & I believe they won the MLS Cup in 2000.
As a Chivas USA supporter, I can't help but think it can only get worse. Then I read this: http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nota/_/id/1657167/a-tres-anos-la-mudanza-chivas-usa-
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought everyone here was bilingual since the opinions are about Chivas not goats. LOL! Black Army = 100% Chivas USA / USMNT / MLS / anti- chivas de guadalajara
Good points about the Florida teams, but I'll vote for Chivas USA - a bad concept from the start. Sure FC Dallas haven't seen much success, but at least we don't have to watch our roommates score while we fail.
FWIW, The Metrostars never competed in the 96 US Open Cup so I would argue that it is only 16 for them. NY has obviously not done well in the playoffs, but they have reached the playoffs 12 times. Thats actually more than DC United, KC and SJ (even if you give them 2 for the years they were out) and a few others. They have been a somewhat consistent regular season MLS side. That being said, if you are going to based this soley off hardware won, it is hard not to argue NY at the top of the list.
How about the two that were discontinued. Miami and Tampa Bay. They were so bad they got rid of them.
Both Tampa Bay (1996) and Miami (2001) won a Supporters Shield title for the league's best regular season record during their respective tenures. Tampa Bay qualified for the playoffs four times in its six years. Miami qualified three times in four years. Miami was folded immediately after winning its Shield and having regular season attendance jump by roughly 50 percent.
since the drink is ACTUALLY IN NJ i see there is no NJ option for voting... how ever bad the drink does its well deserved with that disgraceful image and name and unacceptable experiment they got going i hope they continue to set new levels of all time lows...
TFC: i'm speaking as a supporter for one reason and one reason only.. our front office. from my understanding (im sleep deprived at the moment).. we got a stadium built on the cheap in a deal struck between the city and the national team, we got it for practically nothing. the front office didn't think we'd sell enough tickets for a supporter section, so they stuck it in a corner with no room for expansion. they sold out the supporters section, and then opened up another section 2 rows over, and then one on the north end of the stadium (again, not thinking it wouldn't sell out). they drove prices continuously up, every season, putting them above almost every team in the league on concessions/tickets. they included no perks (no discounts on parking/concession/CONCACAF tickets) in the SSH package. they've had 146 players and 7 coaches in 6 seasons (count that against DCU's 200 players and 7 coaches in 16 seasons). they've had no playoff births in 6 seasons. and each time we scrap a coach, they bring someone else in to completely redesign and rebuild the team from scratch and then give them the chelsea ultimatum (we want wins/trophies or you're gone at the end of the season). the front office fell ass backwards into a city that absolutely fell in love with the team in a stadium they had to pay a half price for. they didn't even have to advertise, and BMO was sold out 20k+ fans every single game of the season for the first 4 seasons. supporters and fans aren't pissed off because the team is losing, we're toronto, we're used to it. they're pissed because they know that each win we get is a roll of the dice. each coach is a year away from being pushed out the door if they don't get immediate results. we're the perennial whipping boys of the MLS, i've been on these forums and other SG forums enough to read "if we don't get 3 points away against TFC, it'll be a waste" or "5 remaining games, 1 of them TFC so that's an easy one". don't get me wrong, i'm still there for them. if you asked me 4 years ago, i'd say NY.. but goddamn, now? it's TFC.
I am surprised New York is the people 3rd choice out of 4. Toronto is new at sucking. For New York, sucking is basically a way of life.
Clearly the on field stuff has been a disaster, but... 1) - You must not have been around during the battle to get BMO built. Getting it through the political hurdles was a massive accomplishment and without it you wouldn't have a team to bitch about today. So, I'm not sure how that's an example of the club's incompetence. 2) - You mea like 95% of supporter's sections in the world? The SS is basically determined by cost of ticket. Did you expect the whole stadium to be priced at less than $20 per seat? 3) - True for first four years. Not true since. I paid $10 less for my season seat this year than I did in 2007. 4) - In 2011 you received a free game. This year you are receiving a free ticket to the season opener in Montreal (with yet to be announced travel support), and 50% off CCL games should the team qualify. Additionally, if you renewed before last Saturday you received a pair of free lower bowl Raptors tickets (average face value was about $140 for the pair). There are lots of legitimate reasons to place blame on MLSE. Blaming them for things that they aren't at fault for just makes you look like a crackpot.