2012 Race for the White House II: The Two Towers

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  1. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I saw a couple Romney signs in some yards in Evanston, but I just assumed they were intended as horrifying Halloween decorations.
     
  2. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I dunno, I thought the argument was that core Dems might not turn out. These were core Dems alright. Grad students, African-American families, lefty grays, and so forth.

    Sample size of one, of course.
     
  3. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Walking in Rogers Park on Halloween night -- fat white middle-aged guy, dressed in suit and tie, Satan face paint, Satan cape, carrying a sign reading "I'm for Mitt." It ain't Lubbock around here.
     
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  4. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    Here in Minnesota if you go for a walk in the Twin Cities, about half of houses have signs up ... probably about 80-90% liberal. Out of those houses more than half have an Obama signs up.

    If you drive through a suburban or rural Republican stronghold you can also find areas that have 80-90% conservative signs. But I'd say that only a quarter of those Republican households include a Romney sign.
     
  5. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair the media can't just come out and say it is over, say all pols show that Obama will win so we will move on. They would be accused of bias (well they will be anyways right) even when they would be right, the right would use that as an excuse of why Obama won.

    Same thing happened in Mexico when the pols had PRI wining by a wide margin so the media just talked like a forgone conclusion that they would win, at the end, the election was much closer than what the pols showed and the PRD complained that if the media had not given up and declared PRI the winner before the election that they should have won. (They most likley would have still lost regardless)

    Obviously the corruption and pol bias was much bigger in Mexico that it could be in the USA.

    Plus they have to sell and keep up the ratings right.
     
  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The problem is that content is part of their cost base, whereas advertising is part of their revenue base.

    So they could come out and accurately report the best information - but with disastrous consequences.

    In other media types, the content is tailored to the advertising base.

    The most criminal is the Travel section.
     
  7. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
    Just Barely Outside the Beltway
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I don't think you understand what "socialist" and "ideologue" mean.
     
  8. Demosthenes

    Demosthenes Member+

    May 12, 2003
    Berkeley, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now wait a minute, maybe he does. He specified that Obama is an "incompetent socialist ideologue" (emphasis Smiley's). If you look at Obama's record, then as socialist ideologues go, he is indeed quite incompetent. I mean, he has never even attempted to promote any kind of socialist agenda. So yeah, as a socialist ideologue he can only be called incompetent.
     
  9. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    Yes, and Obamacare is exhibit A. He wants to socialize medicine, and what we got was the worst of both worlds - insurance companies still in charge and regulators driving the costs up even farther. He made a half-hearted takeover of GM, socialized student loans, tries to force his vision of green energy down our throats and pours money down green ratholes. Slamdunk jobs on a pipeline from Canada gets put on the spike.

    He wants a socialized economy but even in this he's in over his head. He's Moveon.org personified.

    Then there's Benghazi. Incompetence before, during, and a cover-up that would embarass Nixon.
     
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  10. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's got to be close to a record for number of weak ass talking points in a single post...
     
  11. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it? I would say Kuklabot, Schapes, TalkingPoints, and Quayle could easily surpass that. Let's get serious - it was a weak attempt and failed to garner any traction.
     
  12. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
    Just Barely Outside the Beltway
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    You mean Chafeecare.
    You mean he traveled back in time to write the GI Bill and then got back on the DeLorean to sign the Reauthorization of the Higher Education Act, cleverly disguised as George H.W. Bush?
    Four more Solyndras! Four more Solyndras!
    You know who really wants a socialized economy? Wall Street!
    I thought George Soros was Moveon.org personified.
    [citation needed]
     
  13. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United

    Smiley is right on. He is, in fact, an incompetent socialist and an incompetent ideologue.
     
  14. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [schapesbot]Another Obama failure![/schapesbot]
     
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  15. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I intend to spend tomorrow watching soccer, and feeding the chipmunks and squirrels that live around the house. No more election for me.

    I also fully expect to fail in this intention. Probably before I even finish my coffee tomorrow morning.

    This damn thing really is wearing me down.
     
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  16. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's almost over, thank god. Tomorrow I'll spend the day doing yardwork and maybe some cooking while I watch cheesy genre TV shows (Fringe, Haven, Grimm, a Friday night DVR trifecta) and avoiding the real world. Monday, if all goes well, I'll spend the day working and resting up mentally for Tuesday, which will be a nerve-wracking, nail-biting torture fest.
     
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  17. Demosthenes

    Demosthenes Member+

    May 12, 2003
    Berkeley, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  18. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

    CanPL
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  19. Demosthenes

    Demosthenes Member+

    May 12, 2003
    Berkeley, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Abby needs to either grow up, or convince her parents to move to a nonswing state. :)
     
  21. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

    CanPL
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Not my fault that her parents are trying to be optimistic.
     
  22. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    That was my initial point - that I didn't and don't have money to put on anything right now, being in the process of uprooting my life for the second time in just over a year, and moving to NZ.

    I would also get far better odds in the bookies even now, were I to be in a position to bet money (Obama at 1:4.5 as of about 2 days ago on Paddy Power, whoand now having suspended betting... and 1:4 at Ladbrokes).
     
  23. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
    Just Barely Outside the Beltway
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Tom Socca: Why don't white men vote like regular Americans?

    Well, that's not the title, but that's what it comes down to. For all the talk about how polarized across racial lines this election is, and about Obama's appeal to minorities and the talk about Colin Powell supporting his own, it's really all about (older, disproportionately rural) white men being the exception to the norm. And this is why it's still impossible to talk about the Republican Party without talking about the Southern Strategy and "states' rights". And this is why Romney pushes that lie about welfare so much and keywords like "Detroit" and "food stamp president" resonate with the GOP audience so much.

    I'm sure the supporters are sincere about their concern for economic issues and evangelicals do care about the nation's moral fibre. But at its very core, the mission of the Republican Party has been, for at least the last 44 years, to make white men feel better about themselves.
     
  24. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Shouldn't their wives be doing that for them?
     
  25. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    For what it's worth ... the HuffPost electoral map now has Obama above 270 electoral votes, for the first time since mid October (or earlier).

    The count is 277-206, with NH, Colorado, Florida, and Virginia marked as undecided.

    On the bright side for Romney, Oregon, Wisconsin, Nevada, Iowa, Ohio, and PA are vulnerable per the map in that the only lean to Obama, whereas Obama has almost nowhere else to gain ground, with NC being the only Romney state marked as "lean."
     

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