Pre-match: EPL: Chelsea vs. Manchester United, Sunday, October 28, 2012

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by JamesA, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. nimma

    nimma Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 5, 2006
    India
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    time to revive the old thread on the OTG forum...Any new artists fellas??
     
  2. sstarch1

    sstarch1 Member

    Jan 25, 2005
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Well for the record, I'm "against" you. But really I'mm.... well yeah, still against you. :)
    Right. So i obviously disagree that the "correct calls were made" in this game. All i mean to say, from PERSONAL exprience playing in 2 soccer leagues a week, that it is almost always dissatisfying when we get a penality we dont deserve, or the other team is not getting calls they should get, etc and we end up winning. That's my personal opinion. Some people probably dont care as long as they win.

    Even when CFC gets the benefit of the calls, I dont enjoy the victory as much.


    Kettle, meet pot, or is it the other way around...?




    Drogba got a yellow card for this, i believe..
     
  3. lynne

    lynne Member+

    Oct 11, 2003
    ^Yeah, I thought the call against Drogba was unfair. Jonny Evans does get the calls sometimes.
     
  4. ZANI

    ZANI Member

    Feb 14, 2004
    USA
    last season you had two bogus PK's to draw level at Stamford Bridge. This is the problem with civilization. It is used to be corrupt refs spend the bribe money on wheelchairs.
     
  5. lynne

    lynne Member+

    Oct 11, 2003
    And before that, year after year, EBJT would throw out his hands to bat balls out of the air -- without a single call going against him.

    I have no idea where corrupt referees would be buying wheelchairs....
     
  6. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    How does kettle pot and all that, apply to this and me?
     
  7. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    he also tried to grab a red card from a ref once. i believe he may have touched him in an inappropriate manner as well. guess he thinks he can do whatever he wants without consequence
     
  8. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    the commentary on this clip is great.

    some things you can't explain, the bermuda triangle, why did the chicken cross the road. why do birds fly south and...... this!
     
  9. exref

    exref Member

    Aug 1, 2009
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Drogba got a yellow card for this, i believe.."

    Just like Suarez, this was Drogba's reputation for diving affecting the ref's decision-making, unfortunately. And, he did ham it up, but the ref certainly got it wrong.
     
  10. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I can explain it. Drogba was going into that challenge, knowing he had no chance of wining it, but a good chacne of undercutting Evans or hurting him. Evans protected himself.
     
  11. exref

    exref Member

    Aug 1, 2009
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That does explain why Drogba got the yellow - reckless on his part. But, Jonny should have gotten a yellow, too, for the high foot.
     
  12. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Any argument that says Drogba couldn't have won the ball has got to acknowledge that Evans didn't go for the ball. Maybe there is a reason for that, but Evans should have taken his lumps.
     
  13. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    I would say normally give Evans the benefit of the doubt but he clearly kicks at Drogba mid air. But that doesn't excuse what Drogba did. He had 0% chance of getting the ball, was at least a second late going into the challenge and with Evans in mid-air could have been a serious injury to Evans if Johnny had not "protected" himself.
     
  14. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Im not sure I understand what you mean by Evans didnt go for the ball. He won the ball. He also kicked Drogba, but he won the ball.


    easy for you to say.
     
  15. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Evans kicks you.

    You get carded.
     
  16. sstarch1

    sstarch1 Member

    Jan 25, 2005
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    There's a pot and a kettle in there somewhere - and they should be calling each other names. Though hopefully not racists names. :)
     
  17. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Well one did call the other African American....
     
  18. sstarch1

    sstarch1 Member

    Jan 25, 2005
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    While i am trying to be unbiased (disclaimer that i am a big fan of Drogba as a player and even more so as a PERSON outside the pitch) - I would certainly not equate Suarez and Drogba in any metric.

    I am NOT saying that Drogba's history of "behavior" didn't influence the call in that clip specifically but i struggle to remember times when Droba fell over with NO contact AKA pulling a "Suarez". :)

    EDIT: I know its Reds vs Blues in this thread specifically, but I hope to unite (see what i did there?) in our disdain for the Liverpoor....
     
  19. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    benni... you are right, I should have worded that differently. He should have won the ball and taken the contact rather than tried to protect himself at all. The outstanding image from that is not the header, but the kick. Stupid to do that.

    "Your witness"

    Your honor, I'd like to introduce into evidence a video from over 5 years ago. Let's call this exhibit a.

     
    sstarch1 and Invincible repped this.
  20. urbnzy

    urbnzy Member+

    Aug 13, 2007
    Slovenia
    Well to be fair (even though I don't think you can be fair with Suarez), he very rarely dived when there was no contact before the middle of last season. I remember that because I had a lot of trouble finding a video of his dive without contact, he only exaggerated his falls (falling with minimal contact). But since then, when he found out that he's not getting the calls, he took his diving to another level.
     
  21. exref

    exref Member

    Aug 1, 2009
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am a big fan of Drogba, on & off the pitch, too. I mentioned that specifically bcuz I think it was an example of a player's behavior influencing a referee's call. Just as I believe that players like Cattermole/Barton get more fouling calls against them because of their reputations. I would never equate Drogba and Suarez.
     
  22. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    so you are saying Lehman didnt touch Drogba?
     
  23. exref

    exref Member

    Aug 1, 2009
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Loved the Lehman v. Drogba clip. Two grown men playing patty cake!
     
  24. sstarch1

    sstarch1 Member

    Jan 25, 2005
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Agreed. That is some great comedy.

    Hope for a better match today boys!
     
  25. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    How are Feruz and Piazon doing nowadays?
     

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