Purdue doesn't have a club team anymore...rant about title IX!

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California and Florida also produce a lot of top rowers. Texas is working hard to catch up...

If it weren't for men's collegiate soccer using all that athletic department scholarship money, I'm sure our professional rowing league would be very profitable, and we'd have too many Olympic gold medals to count. (Is it still too early for sarcasm?

 

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I think you're right. That's where weather and culture enter into it - football is part of the culture of the south, and the weather allows them to work under better conditions for a greater length of time each year. At least, that's one theory.

There are a bunch of football factories at the high school level in both metro areas.

 

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Of course, the question that has never been asked is "Why would a guy who wants to be a professional soccer player have, as the college of his choice, a school that doesn't offer soccer?"

 

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Isn't it obvious? For the hot women on the rowing team, most of whom have never touched an oar before.

 

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Boy, that's a setup that someone with less considerably less tact than I will pounce upon.





Paging monster...

 

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Ahhh, but at your top schools (maybe top 40?) that is not true. Not *even* close to true. Do your homework.

 

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Hey, k1v1n - adjust your sarcasmatron, will you please? There are inside jokes here, so do your homework on them.

 

My bad! Thanks for pointing it out. I just thought you might be talking about my daughter.

 

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And I guess that provides a reasonable explanation for Texas and SoCal.

 

I found these quotes from Bruce Arena in an article today and I found them interesting and germane to the points about the relevance of college soccer to the national team shrinking in the future.

Arena felt the young American soccer players need greater challenges and more opportunities to play and develop. Players such as Landon Donovan and DaMarcus Beasley took advantage of their opportunities and are important cogs with Arena’s National Team.

"People think you're in a lab manufacturing soccer players," he said. "What you need to do is just give them opportunities. We have enough kids interested if we give them the right opportunities and continue to give them better competition, they'll blossom and that's no different than any where else in the world.

"The next real big challenge for MLS is having a development league, having reserve teams, youth teams. It’s something that they continue to shy away from, but need to do. Once they do that, we're going to see a lot of players like Landon and DaMarcus. We have a number of talented kids between the ages of 14 and 16. But they're never in the right environment to kick them over the top."

You don't need to be a genius to see that Arena is taking a poke at the top youth clubs and college soccer - and for MLS for not giving the players an alternative - and that he expects the pros to take over most, or all, of the development of our players between 15-22 in the near future.

I bring this up only to support my notion that while Title IX is likely limiting the growth of college soccer, it isn't hurting the national team because college soccer's role towards the national team is shrinking and will soon be fairly, if not totally, irrelevant.

I'll take Bruce backing up my soccer arguments any day of the week!

 

There's no room or place for relevance in this thread.

 

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Yes there should be.

 

I hope this happens sooner than later.

The one-size-fits-all approach of NCAA is a terrible fit for soccer, imo. Soccer players need to be playing 10-11 months of competitive soccer a year, and the August-December season falls woefully short. Sure, they can play for local club sides, but they're not playing with the same teammates or being coached under the same philosophy.

And the "you have a college degree to fall back on" is a terrible, terrible attitude for players who are trying to make a career in professional sports. Besides, not going to college at 18 doesn't prevent anyone from going to college later. I know plenty of people who started undergrad in their 20s and it's my observation that 20-somethings are much better equipped to handle college life than kids who are leaving home for the very first time.

Now, what the club soccer team at Iowa has with the development of the USMNT, I have absolutely no idea, nor do I understand the relevance of Title IX with it. Heh.

 

Plus, it's easier to hit on the hot teachers.

 

And let's not forget that, two years ago today, the first Tom Flannigan Mexicans-Will-Thank-Us-For-Title-IX Achievement Award was presented.

 

Of course they are. They don't need a fake ID.

Duh.

 

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Actually, Purdue's soccer has always been at the club level. They did play IU's varsity team, anyway, until about 1982 or so. I saw Armando Betancourt's team beat 'em about 10-0 one time.

BRF

 

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Don't forget TCU (and I'll bet there are others...).

BRf

 

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Don't forget Missouri-Kansas City, another school he cites as not having a men's program but having a women's program...oops, it's exactly the opposite!

 

Now here is the real question:

After reading Flannigans Title IX threads would anyone hire him as their lawyer?

 

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Oh, Dear God - I got UMKC wrong! How am I ever going to live down such an indiginity?

Tell you what - you do it next time, okay? Or learn to read where I said "Edited to add: In all of those lists, I may have missed somebody here or there. It's not so easy to do this quickly."

 

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Wow! Somebody obviously need a nice long, quiet, relaxing vacation!

 

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No. TCU abandoned theirs several years ago, and North Texas some years before that. SMU is the only men's D1 soccer program in Texas.

 

Only so I could plead ineffectve counsel in my appeal.

 

Or plead, even.