Some Supporters' Shield Trivia

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by henryo, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did the same thing in 2005? We were not undefeated this year at "home", only at Buck Shaw.;) We had that loss to Houston 1-0 very early in the season in San Francisco.
     
  2. YilmazOrhan

    YilmazOrhan Well Brian, I hit it first time...

    Jun 18, 2006
    Suburbia, Kansas
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I understand what it represents, and am quite pleased that we recognize regular season excellence. And I have no issue whatsoever with having a mechanism to break a tie when rankings are needed, be it playoff seeding, CCL berths, whatever.

    But leaving a team off the trophy because of "style points" is pure, unmitigated bullshit.
     
  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
  4. guamster

    guamster Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Winnetka, CA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Guam
    Miami Fusion won the 2001 Supporters Shield in its 4th year of existence.

    I don't know if you can claim that the Quakes were undefeated at home since they lost to Houston at AT&T Park, technically a home game.
     
  5. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Dang, there go both of my claims. Nevermind! I didn't know Miami was an expansion team, though it seems that two years or whatever into the start of a new league should barely qualify as an "expansion" team.
     
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  6. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Though you counted Chicago, who came in as an expansion team the same year as Miami...
     
  7. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Doh! OK, I'm officially retiring from contributing to Supporter's Shield trivia. "Early MLS" history is not my strong suit.
     
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  8. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LA did it last year and San Jose didn't really do it this year. They were undefeated at Buck Shaw (and Stanford) but lost at AT&T Park, which counted as a home game for them. That's why you hear about Houston being only the 4th team ever to end the season undefeated at home, but no one is making that claim for San Jose.
     
  9. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Well I'm making that claim, because the Quakes did it in 2005 (and I think they were the first).
     
  10. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My bad, I was thinking you were talking about this year.
     
  11. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Well I was wrong about this year, but the Quakes did do it in 2005.
     
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  12. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rep for admitting you were actually wrong about something.:)
     
  13. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Well I was right to admit I was wrong though, so they kind of cancel each other out, and therefore it doesn't actually count :).
     
  14. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    To update: as things stand, season 2012 could see 3 teams (S.J. & K.C. already and D.C. potentially) make the 60-point mark, which would be a first in league history.

    Previous best records were:
    2011: 2 teams: L.A. 67 points, Seattle 63 points.​
    2005: 1 team: San Jose 64 points.​
    1998: 1 teams: L.A. 68 points.​
    (NB: All teams were from the West, except K.C. of 2012)​

    However, if SOs were counted as ties, more teams would have made the 60-point league as well:
    1999: D.C. 60 points​
    1998: D.C. 61 points​
    1996: T.B. 61 points​
    (NB: All teams were from the East)​
     
  15. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
  16. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Interesting Trivia:
    http://www.ussoccerplayers.com/ussoccerplayers/2012/10/questions-the-gap-in-points.html
     
  17. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Updated following the conclusion of 2012 Regular Season:
     
  18. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Keith Hickey: Are the 2012 Quakes the best Supporters' Shield winners ever?

    They picked up the trophy for the best regular season record, but where do the 2012 San Jose Earthquakes stack up against history?

    http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1110...re-the-2012-quakes-the-best-supporters-shield
    Code:
    Year     Team     Pts     Played     W     L     D     Pts p/g      For     Against     GD      For p/g     Against p/g     Avg. GD p/g
    1996     TBM     58     32     20     12     -     1.81     66     51     15     2.06     1.59     0.47
    1997     DCU     55     32     21     11     -     1.72     70     53     17     2.19     1.66     0.53
    1998     LAG     68     32     24     8     -     2.13     85     44     41     2.66     1.38     1.28
    1999     DCU     57     32     23     9     -     1.78     65     43     22     2.03     1.34     0.69
    2000     KCW     57     32     16     7     9     1.78     47     29     18     1.47     0.91     0.56
    2001     MIA     53     26     16     5     5     2.04     57     36     21     2.19     1.38     0.81
    2002     LAG     51     28     16     9     3     1.82     44     33     11     1.57     1.18     0.39
    2003     CHI     53     30     15     7     8     1.77     53     43     10     1.77     1.43     0.33
    2004     COL     49     30     12     5     13     1.63     40     32     8     1.33     1.07     0.27
    2005     SJE     64     32     18     4     10     2.00     53     31     22     1.66     0.97     0.69
    2006     DCU     55     32     15     7     10     1.72     52     38     14     1.63     1.19     0.44
    2007     DCU     55     30     16     7     7     1.83     56     34     22     1.87     1.13     0.73
    2008     COL     57     30     17     7     6     1.90     50     36     14     1.67     1.20     0.47
    2009     COL     49     30     13     7     10     1.63     41     31     10     1.37     1.03     0.33
    2010     LAG     59     30     18     7     5     1.97     44     26     18     1.47     0.87     0.60
    2011     LAG     67     34     19     5     10     1.97     48     28     20     1.41     0.82     0.59
    2012     SJE     66     34     19     6     8     1.94     72     43     29     2.12     1.26     0.85
    [​IMG]
     
  19. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    By numbers alone, 2012 San Jose didn't even get close to competing with the 1998 LA Galaxy. 70 points (if you count shootouts as draws to make an attempt at an apples to apples comparison) in 32 games, and 85 goals, 44 against for a goal differential of 41. Of course, MLS 1998 was radically different than MLS 2012.
     
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  20. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That will be a tough nut to crack for any future team. 85 goals is remarkable.
     
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  21. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Thats About 2.6 goals per game (and aprox 1.3 goals against per game)... , I don't have the numbers, but they should have a lot of combs that year, isn't it?
     
  22. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Just one, a 4-0 win over the Metrostars on 6-6-96. There was only one other game all year they scored four goals in - a 4-2 win over San Jose on 9-15-96. They spread their goals out remarkably evenly.
     
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  23. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007

    MLS: The Official "Comb" Watch
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/mls-the-official-comb-watch.1976476/
     
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  24. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007

    That's true for 1996: L.A. only combed 1 team (Metrostars) in that season...
     
  25. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Whoopsie. Dunno why I thought 1996 = 1998. o_O
     
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