PBP: 2012 Presidential Debate: Obama vs Romney Leg 1 [R]

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by DynamoEAR, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    That was pretty funny. How many times is he going to interrupt? and then advertise his own show?
     
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chris Hayes made the point that Romney chopped off the right wing tonight. That's a good analysis for tonight. How that will play out over the next 2-3 days as people contrast Romney of tonight with Romney over the last 15 months will be interesting.

    Chris Matthews is gonna have a stroke. He's killin' Obama for his performance saying that Obama needs to watch MSNBC to be better prepared. :D Pretty funny.
     
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  3. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
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    CA Boca Juniors
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    Argentina
    Damn! You're almost tempting me to watch MSNBC. Shame that my satellite package doesn't carry it.
     
  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    MSNBC is doing something interesting...they're putting tweets from pundits and politicos along the bottom of the screen. The main hope for liberals is that Obama trapped Romney into saying things that can be turned into effective ads. FWIW. I'm not buying it.
     
  5. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Obama looked fatigued & disinterested. Did he mention the 47% video at all? Jeez - overcourteous and he said "we agree" like a dozen times.

    When Romney spoke Obama looked down at his notes and smiled or frowned. Not great on the body language.

    Win Romney in Round 1
     
  6. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
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    CA Boca Juniors
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    Argentina
    Here's tonight unquestionable winner. Hail Grimes!!!
     
  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    His shark eyes disturb me

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  8. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
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    CA Boca Juniors
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    Argentina
    Fact checking on CNN right now.
    Obama's claims that Romney will cut taxes by 5 trillion dollars. CNN claims it's false. Romney claims his tax plan will not add to the deficit. CNN says it's also false.
     
  9. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Here's something so simple that Obama could've done & gotten a laugh:

    Mitt - "I wouldn't fund PBS. I love Big Bird, I love you Jim. But I wouldn't keep paying for it"

    Obama could've said - "I love Big Bird and you as well, Jim. And my girls loved Sesame Street when they were young. PBS isn't costing us much in the scheme of things and I think America likes the diversity of public tv"

    All he did was complain about the time he had to respond. Lame.
     
  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    David Plouffe is on MSNBC. He's used the word "dishonestly" twice in a minute. Goddamn, I wish Obama had said that shit.
     
  11. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    There is no debating Grimes!

    Hail Grimes!
     
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  12. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    There is no doubt that Romeney won this debate....Sure, he lied a lot....but Obama never talked to him directly and called him out on those lies....and all that looking down at his papers....NOt a good day for the President, AT ALL ...Considering the amount of ammunition Romney had been giving to the Dems all campaign long (not even counting Ryan's BS!??!!) this is just inexcusable..... Obama needs to drink coffee or something before these things.... NOt the end of the world, but it just sucks
     
  13. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
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    FC Edmonton
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    Canada
    CNN Post Debate Poll:
    62-38 for Romney (Registered Voters)

    CNBC:
    52-38 Romney
     
  14. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    HEY GUYS HEY GUYS HEY GUYS

    I just saw a Gary Johnson ad on MSNBC!
     
  15. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    Savor the awesomeness
     
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  16. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    Obama's team hasn't made too many wrong moves in beating Clinton, beating McCain and now running ahead of Romney is every swing state and putting states into Leaning/Likely Obama every week.

    So, when they decide to lay back and let Mitt take the offensive and hang himself on his so-called plans ... well I'm going to cut Obama some slack.

    We liberals hate this "cool Obama" stuff and want the jugular, but Obama's done pretty well not going down that road.
     
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  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    One last post before I hit the hay.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/10/my_quick_read.php?ref=fpblg

    I hope he's right.
     
  18. DynamoEAR

    DynamoEAR Member+

    May 30, 2011
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    Great. now this is going to boost Romney. C'mon Mr. President.:mad:
     
  19. HouseHead78

    HouseHead78 Member+

    Oct 17, 2006
    Austin, TX
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    United States
    As Whip would say, the president got azzwoop tonight. The opportunities were there, but he just didn't seize them.

    Hope he can recover.
     
  20. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    United States
    Eh. It was a pretty crappy ad.
     
  21. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    And there it is again.
     
  22. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    Doubt it..to use baseball terms....Strike one... two more strikes/debates like this and Obama is out.... and i friggin' wish i was kidding.... BTW Loved MSNBC's coverage.... they were tough on the Prez the way they should be after looking at that poor poor performance..Whoever said Maddow/Hayes would have done a better job is on point....
    Maddow in 20 seconds or so brought up the very valid lines of attack that Obama could have used on Romney ...and never got around to do in 90 friggin' minutes.... I remember her mentioning Bain..the 47%, his job as governor or Massachusetts etc.. Mathews is right that if he had no time to watch cable news at all...he needs to try at least a little ...just for the sake of calling out people's lies and/or 180 degrees turns, which will surely continue the next two debates....
     
  23. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    Post-debate MSNBC interview with David Plouffe:

    Maddow: why not attack so viewers can see the 47% thrown in Romney's face?
    Plouffe: "everyone knows about the 47% and we'll be hammering on that in the swing states. Romney said things tonight that will not play well in coming days in those states."

    They love this ground war stuff. Hope Ohio is as safe as they think.
     
  24. HouseHead78

    HouseHead78 Member+

    Oct 17, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think they feel comfortable up 3-1 in the 75th minute. It's there to be lost, but you can hang back and absorb a little pressure,. Try and hit them on the break.
     
  25. Saltenya94

    Saltenya94 Member

    Jul 29, 2003
    Brooklyn
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    DC United
    Obama won the debate because he said "Americans make the best cars in the world." Ohio in the bank. That's all that counts.
     

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